Send the Iowa class battleships to force the Strait.
Oh, wait...
Posted on 01/05/2012 6:52:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
As we enter 2012, the question of whether our president is planning to go to war might seem far-fetched. After all, all reports indicate that Obama doesn't feel comfortable with the military. Going to war would fly in the face of his claim that he was going to finally use "smart" diplomacy instead of the saber-rattling of George W. Bush.
Obama declared during the primary debates for the Democratic nomination that he would be glad to meet with any head of government without preconditions. We can see that his policies and inclinations toward bilateral or multilateral negotiations to avoid conflict go back to at least 2007, well before he was elected.
The only time he initiated military action was against Moammar Gaddafi in Libya, and then only after France and Britain led the way. He chose to "lead from behind" in that dust-up.
Yet suddenly, the Obama administration is talking tough about Iran. Leon Panetta has spoken aloud the words "A nuclear weapon in Iran is unacceptable." Interviewed by CBS news anchor Scott Pelley, Panetta entered into this exchange:
Pelley: So are you saying that Iran can have a nuclear weapon in 2012?
Panetta: It would probably be about a year before they can do it. Perhaps a little less. But one proviso, Scott, is if they have a hidden facility somewhere in Iran that may be enriching fuel.
Pelley: So that they can develop a weapon even more quickly...
Panetta: On a faster track....
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
He will if the Saudis tell him he should.
Judging from past performance, the first option will obviously be to say, please!
“What will he do if Iran closes the Straights of Hormuz?”
Well, the first thing he will do is crap in his drawers.
He has brought this on himself and when the sh.. hits the fan, he won’t have a clue of what to do. He is totally incompentent.
His instincts scream NO, but he’ll do what he is told to do by his masters.
Send the Iowa class battleships to force the Strait.
Oh, wait...
I’m not exactly clear on why this is our responsibility alone. After all, the mideast nations obviously have a major stake in this and the rest of the world has a stake in it as well.
Here’s the answer:
“I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American Ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave.” King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993
If he thinks it will promote votes toward his reelection he will stop at nothing!
Does anybody know a good news source for keeping up with daily Carrier news? I used to use GlobalSecurity.org, but they tend to be a bit left leaning, and don’t stay current as they did when Pres. Bush was CIC.
Iran is not going to close the Straits of Hormuz because the US Navy could decimate its Navy in 2 to 4 hours and destroy its port that brings in all of its imported gasoline. Iran just needs to threaten the US to drive oil prices up. So what it could not accomplish in OPEC, it accomplishes because Obama has no backbone and response.
If they try to close the strait he will hail the action as a “bold” move toward U.S. energy independence.
FUBO & FAD
I wouldn’t lay it all at the feet of the Saudis either. Most middle eastern oil finds its way to other nations. If Emperor Castrati had a pair he would raise some hell with those nations as well.
It’s not our responsibility alone.
I believe that the United States is far more likely to become engaged in a very serious war with Obama as president and not because he stumbles into one.
Here is the old reply:
The initial understandable reaction to that question is to take into account Obama's record of appeasement in his first 30 days in office. Implicit in that reaction is the assumption that Obama is a typical Leftist motivated by a genetic disposition toward appeasement. Under this understanding, Obama can be expected to engage in appeasement as rank as that seen in Europe leading to surrender differing only in that it will occur a decade or so behind the Euroweenie's pusillanimity. This assumption might not be valid. Obama' s DNA might be very different.
Those of us who entertain a darker assessment of Obama believe that he is not truly an appeaser, and he is truly a Manchurian Marxist who welcomes chaos as a means, Saul Alinsky style, to invest his world with Marxism. We are conditioned since Neville Chamberlain and the shameful Democratic administrations in our own country during the Cold War to see liberalism as afflicted with incurable appeasement. What might be true for a liberal might not be true for a radical, for a Saul Alinsky marxist. Obama might not need chaos, having already achieved his ends.
Radical leftists throughout history have shown themselves to be not at all squeamish about inflicting casualties so long as it is calculated to advance their own power. Thus, Stalin would mercilessly push his troops into suicide attacks, Mao Tse Tung deliberately sacrificed hundreds of thousands of his soldiers to improve his position in the Communist Party, and sacrificed perhaps a million in the Korean War to draw the West into killing fields. So there is no doubt that a committed communist will not shrink from making war or even in sustaining mind numbing casualties of his own people in the advancement of his ideology.
Would president Santorum go to war?
I think he just might do it. Not because he wants to, but because his handlers feel it will be a plus for his re-election bid.
I believe that is why he is butt kissing the Taliban and getting ready to pull the troops out. He will toss Afghanistan under the bus. Heaven help the people there that ever helped us.
This would be a sorry thing because once the troops are involved, he will use the argument that we can’t change horses asses now because we are at war.
Obama has such a poor record, that he can’t use it to get re-elected. The dems will gladly embroil us in another war to keep in power. This may be another reason so many rats are jumpin’ ship this go round.
If we are stuck with this POS, I am not sure any war effort is worth it.
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