Iowa ethanol industry celebrates Romney-Santorum

Washington Examiner ^ | January 4, 2012 | Timothy P. Carney

[Cincinatus' Wife]

..........."Romney and Santorum (like Gingrich and Obama) both go 4-for-4 on the ethanol lobby's scorecard. Paul goes 2-for-4 because he would cut oil subsidies and allow 15-percent ethanol blends to be sold, but opposes the mandate and other subsidies. Rick Perry went 0-for-4."

[dirtboy]

This primary is important and we need the nominee who is going to tear down this wall of government that has been built to enslave us. That person is Gov. Rick Perry.

Then make that case positively for Perry if you believe in it so much. Using Dem talking points to tear down other candidates does nothing to help the conservative cause.

[dirtboy]

Santorum will be gone soon enough.

Yeah, you can tear him down as well. That'll show Romney when no one is left to take him on!

[magritte]

Santorum was a lackluster Senator & Representative whose main claim to fame is that he is a strong social conservative. Weak on the fiscal conservative side, no executive experience, and no private business experience. Plus, he’s just another lawyer.

Sorry. I’ll support a successful big-state governor, veteran, farmer, with a clear, good record on conservative values and ideas anytime over a lame resume like that.

[dirtboy]

Then support Perry’s positives. If Perry is so strong a candidate, there should be no need to be tearing down the other candidates.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

You tear down Perry constantly.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Then make that case positively for Perry if you believe in it so much.

I do! And I'm called a shill, a perrywinkle, a fan-girl and worse.

And the threads have their legit "topics" removed by mods to be sidelined, and posters like you come to trash him.

[rintense]

No argument from me.

[dirtboy]

And I'm called a shill, a perrywinkle, a fan-girl and worse.

I think if you also didn't spend so much time bashing other candidates, and often using Dem talking points in the process, you would be attacked a lot less in that regard.

[rintense]

Exactly right. Newt has already said he’d partner with Santorum to go after Mitt. I bet Perry goes after everyone BUT Mitt.

[dirtboy]

You tear down Perry constantly.

Bullcrap. My issue is mainly with the antics of his campaign shills on FR and their efforts to tear down the other candidates when those candidates start polling ahead of Perry - and you are the worst of those. My primary critique of Perry is that he has not run an effective campaign (which is true and documented) and often is not prepared for his appearances, that is not a policy difference. I have some differences with Perry on some policies, but do not harp on those , and I could support Perry as the nominee, and think he actually still has a chance - but Perry also has to show he can campaign effectively on a national level, just as Santorum will now need to show he can transition from an Iowa-type situation to the grueling run of the next few months of the primary cycle.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

I bet Perry goes after everyone BUT Mitt.

PERRY is the only one who has been going after Mitt.

Carbon Copies [60 second video campaign ad]

Mitt: That's -- I'm running for office, for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals. [video clip]

And Perry's gone after Mitt (A LOT) on hiding his support for mandated health care (remember the $10,000. bet?).

Rick Perry Campaign: "Romney's Remedy" Ad

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Can you tell the truth or do you just think I’m going to buy that “bullcrap” from you?

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[dirtboy]

Uh, CW, please show where I have bashed Perry using Dem talking points against him, the way you did here with Santorum. My critiques over the last three months or so have been against his campaign and the fact that you and other Perry supporters scurry out to bash candidates polling ahead of Perry. And his campaign HAS been ineffective, given his fifth-place finish in Iowa despite all the money and effort he put into that state.

You are calling me a liar, so back it up. Show me the posts where I have taken Dem talking points to bash Perry. Especially over the last 2-3 months.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

All anyone has to do is look at this thread.

Typical “dirt” boy.

[dirtboy]

Show me one bash of Perry on this thread, CW, other than his campaign is mired in single digits, which is the truth, and that his campaign has been poorly run, which also is the truth.

You are such a slime - you call me a liar and are too lazy to back it up with any kind of links. So who REALLY is the liar here?

[Cincinatus' Wife]

You are such a slime -

This is how you post. This is your MO and how you post to ball up threads. Own it.

[magritte]

lol...pointing out Santorums weak record is “tearing down” to you? Hope Ricky doesn’t have that thin a skin...he’s gonna get blasted off the map pretty quick.

[dirtboy]

Funny, CW - you are the one calling me a liar while refusing to back it up. You are the one attacking another candidate with Dem talking points. Yet you lecture ME on how I post on these threads? BWAHAHAHAHA! You funny. Pathetic, but funny.

[dirtboy]

Oh, and BTW, CW, I HAVE defended Perry when Dem attacks are used against him. Can you point to you doing that when Dem attacks are used against the other candidates?

Probably not, since you are often the instigator of such attacks.