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Iowa GOP: Romney wins caucuses [Romney 30,015, Santorum 30,007]
CNN ^ | 1/4/12

Posted on 01/04/2012 12:09:20 AM PST by Slings and Arrows

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney beat former Sen. Rick Santorum by a margin of just 8 votes in the Iowa GOP caucuses, the chairman of the Iowa Republican Party announced early Wednesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: ia2012; karlrove; rove
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To: napscoordinator

“Well that is fine. I would be happy to have a boring boy scout after the crazy President we have had. I guess you are another Romney fan. Yuk, but I guess that is your right to be.”

Oh, come on. I’ve posted about 8,293 times of FR exactly how I feel. I don’t like Romney. Never have. I don’t trust him and I don’t know what he really believes or what he’d really do as President because he opens his mouth and a bunch of words come out... and that’s it.

But that doesn’t mean I have to like Santorum, either (and I don’t). In addition to being terminally bland (and I believe part of being a leader IS having charisma!), he doesn’t strike me as a particularly nice guy. Would I prefer him to Obama? You bet. Do I like him as a candidate? No.

ALL of our candidates are, to me, unacceptable.


101 posted on 01/04/2012 6:39:29 AM PST by Pravious
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To: AlanGreenSpam
I was very impressed with his speech: from the heart and without a teleprompter or notes.

Our current President isn't able to speak for three minutes to a classroom full of fifth graders without a teleprompter.

102 posted on 01/04/2012 6:43:15 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Amen. This caucus was actually, IMHO, a very good thing.

Rick Santorum surprised the pundits and he got his support because he rolled up his sleaves and worked hard and reached the people. And the people in Iowa honored and respected that, in addition of course to seeing his strong conservative positions.

And all of America saw it on display.

I hope he surges elsewhere and has the organization and the money to go on from here and continue. I will donate to him in order to help.

He gave a great speech at the end and I believe he will continue to garner support. Bachman should throw in behind him...Perry may have an outside chance starting in South Carolina, but at this point it would be great to see him throw in behind Rick Santorum as well.

If that happened, then by the time we reach South Carolina it will be a race between Gingrich (who is sounding more angy and vengeful...which will also serve to help Santorum as he goes into pure attack mode and Rick continues to reach the people)...anyhow you will end up with Rick and Gingrich really battling it out in South Carolina and Romney third there.

Then comes Florida and that will be the real test and bellweather in my opinion.

I did not like at all when Santorum threw in behind Spectre and threw Toomey under the bus. That still really bothers me at a deep level...but outside of that and some of his votes for earmakrs, Santorum has been solid in most other areas conservatively and will get the Tea Party backing.

We shall see.

I know this, any of them (outside of Paul's foreign policy) would be orders of magnitude better than Obama, the avowed marxist who is openly destroying the free market and the pillars of the Republic as we watch. We literally, IMHO, cannot afford and perhaps not survive as a constitutional republic based on fundamental moral values with another four years of his damage.

103 posted on 01/04/2012 6:43:18 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: princess leah

I think you got confused with the point I was making. Pick any name, put a D or an R after that name and you have some flavor of socialist.

I would not put my money or effort behind any candidate that that our lords and masters will select and ordain as the faces for us to “choose” from in November. Those faces are simpy fronts for the two wings of a political stage play that is bought and paid for just like the groceries in your cupboard. Everybody in this election is owned by somebody that is too busy running things to be bothered with the circus show that plays out for our amusement and abusement in DC.

Take a closer read at my tagline.


104 posted on 01/04/2012 6:44:18 AM PST by L,TOWM (Once you see that it is all Kabuki Theater, you are free to quit wasting your time on politics.)
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To: Pravious

If I knew you supported Romney, I would not have posted to you. Of course I know you are not a Romney fan. The race is not over, but I have to admit it is getting exciting. Anything can happen and will. You might get a more exciting candidate yet. I personally think Santorum is a great guy. Sure he probably can get “nasty” but all of us do from time to time. Bottom line, it ain’t over yet.


105 posted on 01/04/2012 6:44:51 AM PST by napscoordinator (President Santorum is our future! A miracle is happening before our eyes!)
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To: ScottinVA; Slings and Arrows; ari-freedom; PAConservative1; Carthego delenda est; P-Marlowe; ...
In reality and in PR value, whether Freepers like it or not, Mittens' people must know this is bad news for them.

And the Santorum campaign gets a huge boost under the sheets for money, venues and endorsements that will hold their fire for a while.

REALITY: 7 Romney, 7 Santorum, 7 Paul--so it's a tie...nothing changed in the delegate race, except Perry and Bachman voters are going to recede and vote for who next? Romney? Not likely.

PR VALUE: Read the headlines this morning: "Romney narrowly beats Santorum" "Romney edges past Santorum"

People (outside of FR) who pay little attention hear "That goodhair rich dude just barely beat who? Who is this Santorum guy?"

Will Santorum be able to build on it while Mittens is going all out but just barely treading water?

Meanwhile the caterwauling on FR is hilariously sad! My guy lost by a couple votes! Corrupt! Cheats! Well then how the hell did Paul get that many votes? Sometimes a cucumber is just a cucumber folks. If even Huntsman was out, Santorum "wins". What's the diff?

106 posted on 01/04/2012 6:50:59 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Romney cannot win with only 25% of the vote, and 25% is all he will ever get. I would think that you would be happy that an actual conservative did as well as Santorum did, but for some reason you sound disappointed.


107 posted on 01/04/2012 6:57:09 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Luke21; This Just In; MaryLou1
There isn’t one drop of difference between Willard and Obama.

This is so idiotic. Mittens is certainly a lefty, east-coast blue-blood, but he's not a gaddam Marxist Islamist America Hater.

Slithering creeps who actually RUN the government like Napolitano, Holder, Sebelius, etc will be GONE no matter who wins on the GOP side.

That is 80% of the problem with Marxists running the bureaucracies. THAT is where executive power is.

Go ahead and stay home and let those bastards run the country in the ground so you can teach the GOP a lesson. You won't be allowed to revel in your smarmy "I told you so stories" in the "Obama II mandate" political correctness re-education camps.

108 posted on 01/04/2012 7:01:18 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Slings and Arrows

the way the not-romney candidates keep taking turns spiking up and getting brought down smacks of manipulation of public opinion by the media and romney team. the idea is that all will have had their moment and fallen, and romney gets the nomination, and the gop stays home in 2012 out of disgust.


109 posted on 01/04/2012 7:02:20 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Utmost Certainty

I assume the idea is to have the runner-up be a nobody, rather than someone like gingrich. heck, santorum is virtually unknown nationally. how can this guy pull 25% or whatever in iowa?


110 posted on 01/04/2012 7:04:49 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Slings and Arrows

Just nine votes away from conservatism.


111 posted on 01/04/2012 7:05:50 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: Kit cat
Nobody knows the game better than Newt? You have got to be kidding. Newt couldn't even manage to hold on to his Speakership when his own Party was in power. Knows the game? Newt is too damn lazy to know the game. He thinks he should win simply because he is Newt Gingrich - not because he works harder than everyone else. And now Newt will self-destruct because his ego has been hurt in his war with Mitt Romney.

Newt complains about the negative ads, but is too full of himself to realize that the charges are true. And now revenge is number one on his agenda. But Newt's self-destruction will be a good thing, because it will mean that a conservative wins the nomination instead.

112 posted on 01/04/2012 7:06:20 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: ScottinVA
Whether Santorum won or lost by 1,000 votes, the end result would be the same: 7 delegates for Santorum and 7 for Romney. I`m not seeing the incentive for fraud over a couple hundred votes.

True, and I don't see the incentive, either. Romney was ahead in Clinton Cty. all evening, and that is likely where he made up the difference; meager, yes, but a win is a win. That said, the delegates ARE what matters, and Santorum had a remarkable showing.

At least I got a laugh out of the Soledad O'Brien and Romney interview on CNN this morning. She, who suffers a perseveration disorder called "stuck on Hispanic", and looks like she's hoarding nuts for the winter, could barely contain herself over Romney's alleged lack of support for Dream Act.

113 posted on 01/04/2012 7:06:46 AM PST by Calliecat
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To: Cato in PA; All
Sadly, many "conservatives" are so simple that they can be swayed by a single letter. They've never stopped to ask themselves what Republican they wouldn't vote for if they can be persuaded to vote for Willard Romney the open socialist.

There are millions of people all across this country who have registered and voted GOP their whole lives and think of themselves as conservatives, but who wouldn't last three days on FR without riding the lightning.

These are the Romney supporters. They like a candidate who is "conservative" in personality and image, not necessarily so much in ideology.

They are not that way because of secret mind control waves from Karl Rove. They are that way because it's what they really believe.

Those of you who think that Freepers or the Tea Party are the overwhelming majority of GOP voters and so should have an easy win in any primary contest need to wake up and smell the damn coffee. It ain't so. Not yet anyway, and maybe not for years.

As I have said again and again, it's easy to zot moderates and RINO's from FR. It is impossible to zot them from the GOP voting rolls. Only persuasion will work.

114 posted on 01/04/2012 7:11:46 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Looks like Mittens can rig up some dirty tricks.


115 posted on 01/04/2012 7:11:46 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: sam_paine
Meanwhile the caterwauling on FR is hilariously sad! My guy lost by a couple votes! Corrupt! Cheats!

Got that right. It's as pathetic as the DUmmies whining about Ohio in 2004. Some of the people on this thread are really losing their grip on reality.

116 posted on 01/04/2012 7:15:10 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Who will lose to Obama IMO—sometimes I wonder if that’s why they want him.

That's exactly why they want him. Our nation is circling the drain and the GOP is more concerned over whose turn it is to run for President.

117 posted on 01/04/2012 7:19:24 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Bush V. Gore? FL?


118 posted on 01/04/2012 7:24:20 AM PST by USMAMULE
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To: Slings and Arrows

Romney could win every primary and every caucus. He will not ever get a vote from me.


119 posted on 01/04/2012 7:24:52 AM PST by Grunthor (Do you worship the State or do you worship the Lord? There is no middle ground.)
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To: WoofDog123

Unknown? The knock on him has been whether he can get the votes, not his experience or conservativism. He knocked it out of the park in Iowa.

He just got way more ‘known’ and is the frontrunner right now.


120 posted on 01/04/2012 7:25:58 AM PST by BenKenobi
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