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To: Nachum
I know that no one else in California will agree with me on this, but this is partly a result of Prop 13.

The good people of California only need to make sure that slightly more than 1/3rd of their representatives are Republicans in order to keep their taxes from going up. Meanwhile the huge majority of Democrats can pass wave after wave of increasingly socialist legislation.

If every vote in the state legislature was simple majority wins, then the Republicans might have a fighting chance to get a majority every once and a while.

Certainly the indoctrinated liberals will support ever-increasing spending and taxing, but the average voter will revolt at some point.

Right now with Prop 13 we all get to have our cake and eat it to: more and more government programs with no fear of raising taxes.

Let our grandchildren eat ...?

12 posted on 01/03/2012 6:17:00 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I know that no one else in California will agree with me on this, but this is partly a result of Prop 13.

Why?

14 posted on 01/03/2012 6:22:00 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I know that no one else in California will agree with me on this, but this is partly a result of Prop 13.

You're right. No one in California will agree with you.

15 posted on 01/03/2012 6:25:43 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
know that no one else in California will agree with me on this, but this is partly a result of Prop 13.


16 posted on 01/03/2012 6:29:06 PM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“I know that no one else in California will agree with me on this, but this is partly a result of Prop 13.”

Sorry, but I disagree. Without Prop 13, the demise of the state would pick up speed at an alarming rate. As a commercial property owner, I am concerned that the RATs may try to “split off” commercial property from the constraints of Prop 13 and try to finance their madness on the backs of business property owners. My leases now contain a clause that becomes operative if the RATs are ever successful at making this change so that my tenants have to cover the additional taxes should they ever be imposed. On the other hand, they could choose to leave the state and that would be the end of me.
I am just hoping that California crashes before they can get the law changed.


17 posted on 01/03/2012 6:40:46 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Prop 13 was the best thing that ever happened to CA. Every time a property sells it gets gets reassessed...at a higher rate of course.


19 posted on 01/03/2012 6:49:30 PM PST by gloworm
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

California remained the “Golden State” long after Prop. 13 passed and the state flourished for many years in 85/86 the ridiculous extremest radical environmentalist crap kicked in and the very lucrative and specialized oil industry jobs were immediately shut down.
That was Chapter 2 in the decline, Chapter One was not deporting the illegals.

I know, I was a resident. I left for the same reasons folks are leaving now.

Steve Jobs, Apple and Silicon Valley saved your butts for a bit.

Success always brings know it all Liberals from back East who invade like locusts and kill everything in sight.

End of Story.


21 posted on 01/03/2012 7:04:26 PM PST by acapesket
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Reagan and Prop 13 were the only 2 sane things that Ca has done in the past 40+ years. I’m sure theirs a few more, but I can’t think of them off hand.


22 posted on 01/03/2012 7:13:50 PM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Right now with Prop 13 we all get to have our cake and eat it to: more and more government programs with no fear of raising taxes.

So why are you putting the blame on prop 13 when more and more gov programs and spending is the real problem. By suggesting that prop 13 is a problem, you’re really saying that we should tax more to keep up with the obscene spending.

Thank God for Prop 13. Without it we’d all be taxed to death here. Certainly very few could own property. Taxes could easily be more than a person’s mortgage payment. The crooks who run California are the problem, not taxpayers prop 13 revolt.


26 posted on 01/03/2012 8:18:37 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I know that no one else in California will agree with me on this, but this is partly a result of Prop 13.

You're right. Actually no sane person on the planet would agree with you.

33 posted on 01/03/2012 10:01:31 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I would make the case that Prop 13 took away local control of schools and cities, and gave more control to Sacramento, since ultimately the State wound up offsetting the shortfalls due to Prop 13. I say, better to may more in local taxes and having more control over those funds, than having to pay more in State taxes, with less control over those revenues.


34 posted on 01/03/2012 10:17:14 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Prop 13 is a problem?

I disagree.
Ronald Reagan once said, “The problem is not that government doesn’t tax people enough, the problem is that government spends too much.”

A prison psychologist in California makes over $700,000.00 per year - money stolen from taxpayers under the threat of violence... and adds virtually nothing to real GDP.


36 posted on 01/04/2012 12:36:05 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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