Posted on 01/03/2012 1:02:05 AM PST by NoPrisoners
Your analogy only works if a woman’s fertility is a disease.
Do you really think the ability to reproduce is a disease?
Your stated argument is unsound - perhaps you can restate it?
Is fertility a disease? NO. Fertility is a sign of a healthy reproductive system.
Are you kidding?
Next thing you will tell me is that C-sections are immoral too!
It is not mutilation. The person asks for it and it is painless. And it doesn’t involve a kid being aborted.
“Treating women like breeding machines is far more harmful to society. It is also reminiscent of the attitude towards women-as-cattle in Islamic countries.”
Who here is advocating that we treat women as breeding machines? You sound more like a Feminazi who is resentful of her ability to bear & mother children.
Perhaps you ought to read the Catholic Church’s teachings on AUTHENTIC feminity, not that garbage peddled by the women’s rights movement & Cosmopolitan magazine.
You’re quite misguided & cannot distinguish between using medical technology to heal & using it for immoral purposes. Get a clue.
pro-life ping
Spurious argument at best. If you live long enough, you'll get cancer from something.
Sex was not created for human gratification, it was created to be a functioning process for reproduction.
If Santorum is talking about federal laws maybe you got a concern. Of course, he's not. He's expressing an opinion based on the teachings of his church.
Maybe you should grill Romney about the degree to which he accepts the teachings of his religion. Or better yet, Obama about his.
Spurious argument???
Even the WHO agrees:
http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/ageing/cocs_hrt_statement.pdf
You really should try getting your facts straight.
ROFLMAO! "Every sperm is sacred!"
Actually, I've found motherhood to be the most rewarding job I've ever had. But the more children you have, the less time can be devoted to each of them.
Perhaps you ought to read the Catholic Church’s teachings on AUTHENTIC feminity, not that garbage peddled by the women’s rights movement & Cosmopolitan magazine.
Why is it that every time a woman wants to control some aspect of her reproductive life (through non-lethal means), she is called a Feminazi??? I maintain that those of you who would allow your wives to continue popping out baby after baby have no idea the of the physical or psychological cost to some women...nor would you even care. Thus, that mentality imho falls into the realm of animal husbandry, and not that of a human husband.
Therefore, the analogy to the Islamic view of femininity would seem to be correct.
What are you talking about, breeding machine? Do you really think that's the only alternative?
If your wife's health or some other important consideration necessitate you suspend having children for a while, you abstain from sex during fertile periods. Simple as that. It's a sacrifice, yeah, but you do it because you love her and you want the best for her. Remember St. Paul? "Husbands love your wives as Christ loves the Church".
Now if a husband "needs" to have sex during fertile periods, his wife's emotional and physical well-being be damned, then I'd submit he's being a selfish, petulant little brat.
To make the claim that Catholic mothers are somehow strong armed into childbearing by animalistic husbands is pretty ridiculous. You ought to try getting out more.
And if you’d like to control your reproductive life, then don’t have sex during the fertile days of your cycle. I guess maybe that’s too difficult for some people, though. Discipline & self-control can be quite inconvenient in this hedonistic culture we live in.
Nice try at distraction though. The original point you responded to was to denigrate God's gift of medicine to us.
It's ok, you don't want it, you don't have to take it. The world just might be better off without you. :)
They are classified at the same level of carcinogen as alcohol...and to my knowledge...that never stopped a Catholic from drinking at the KC hall...or ANYWHERE for that matter. So the next time someone says that...tell them to put down the beer bottle...or burned steak.
These are the *husbands* that I am referring to.
I wonder if eating is also something that we aren’t supposed to take gratification in either.
If we eat because it taste good and not because we are at starvation, have we sinned?!
Glad you’re ok with dumping synthetic hormones into your body for the sake of convenient sex.
It’s women like you who bitch about men making them sex objects, yet your mentality is what allows that to happen.
Santorum (and the Catholic Church) are spot-on about the negative effects of contraception. Too bad some self-serving moral relativists are too blinded by their own ways to admit that.
What exactly is the point of your comment?? Because a Catholic has a drink or a steak, they cannot comment on the untoward effects of oral contraceptives??
The Church does have teachings about eating & drinking in excess. It is immoral, same as using birth control.
I don’t give a flying flip if it is painless.
Morality has to do with the *intent*, not the means.
What’s the intent of getting a vasectomy? Is to heal? Is it to save?
No. The intent is to separate sexual pleasure from reproduction.
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