Posted on 01/02/2012 8:15:45 PM PST by Colofornian
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In the past youve said hes changed positions only once, on abortion. Was that your doing? No, no, I never talked to Mitt about that. Our personal opinions have never changed; weve always been pro-life...
(Excerpt) Read more at parade.com ...
Well, I've updated chart to include Ann Romney:
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YEAR | Obvious Pro-Abortion Romneys | Romneys Feigning 'Pro-Life' |
Bottom-Line Summary: ANN Romney Lies Thru Her Teeth | Ann Romney, 1994: Romney's wife gives donation to Planned Parenthood Ann Romneys Planned Parenthood Donation | Ann Romney, 2011: In the past youve said hes changed positions only once, on abortion. Was that your doing? No, no, I never talked to Mitt about that. Our personal opinions have never changed; weve always been pro-life Ann Romney Reveals Mitt's Softer Side |
Bottom-Line Summary: Mitt Romney Lies Thru His Teeth | Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice." (Bruce Smith, "Romney Campaigns in SC with Sen. DeMint," The Associated Press, 1/29/07) + ...my position was effectively pro-choice." (Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate 8/5/2007) | So, not only does Ann Romney tell Parade Magazine November 2011 that they've never changed re: abortion and that they've always been pro-life, but Mitt Romney told Chris Wallace part-way through their 2007 campaign that: I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice...This was seven months after he said in January 2007 that he was always for life. (see below for source); Wallace interview source: Transcript: Mitt Romney on 'FOX News Sunday' |
Romney Couple History of Abortion-Related Statements 1994-2011 | Obvious Pro-Abortion Romneys | Romneys Feigning 'Pro-Life' |
Romney, goin' back to 1970 when Romney's Mom ran for Senate | "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. (October, 1994 Senatorial debate vs. Ted Kennedy) | "'He's been a pro-life Mormon faking it as a pro-choice friendly,'" Romney adviser Michael Murphy told the conservative National Review..., says the Concord Monitor = So I guess that made him a below-the-radar "flip" acting like a "flop?" |
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1994 (Campaign) | "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice." (October, 1994 Senatorial debate vs. Ted Kennedy) = Mitt the flipster from what most LDS represent their faith as being...BTW, Romney uses the strongest word possible for support sustain ...Note for non-Mormons: Lds use the word sustain for support for their own prophet | Romney has since invoked a "nuanced stance" about what he was in 1994: He says "Look, I was pro-choice. I am pro-life. You can go back to YouTube and look at what I said in 1994. I never said I was pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice. (Source: Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate Aug 5, 2007) |
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1994 (Planned Parenthood ties) → 2001 | (a) Romney's wife gives donation to Planned Parenthood (a href=http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/ann-romneys-planned-parenthood-donation/>Ann Romneys Planned Parenthood Donation (b) On June 12, 1994, Romney himself attends private Planned Parenthood event at home of a sister-in-law of a Planned Parenthood board member where the president of Planned Parenthood recalls talking to Romney: "Nicki Nichols Gamble, a former president and chief executive of Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts, said today that the photo shows Mitt and Ann Romney at a private home in Cohasset in June 1994." Source: See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941932/posts; "Gamble said the pic was snapped at an event at GOP activist Eleanor Bleakies house and that she clearly remembered speaking with Romney at the event." Source: See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941627/posts; "In fact Romney personally attended the Planned Parenthood event in question on June 12, 1994. Gamble, the President of Massachusuetts Planned Parenthood in 1994, also attended the event at the home of a Republican, Eleanor Bleakie, the sister-in-law of a Planned Parenthood Board member. Both Romney and Michael Kennedy, who appeared on behalf of nephew of Ted Kennedy, attended the event." Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941240/posts | 2001: "I do not wish to be labeled pro-choice." (Mitt Romney, Letter to the Editor, The Salt Lake Tribune, 7/12/01) = So he doesn't want to be known as a "flop" (so what is he?) |
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2002-2004 | I will preserve and protect a womans right to choose, and have devoted and am dedicated to honoring my word in that regard (Nov. 2, 2002) = Well, now guess what? He's solidly pro-abortion AGAIN! See also: "I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government's." (Stephanie Ebbert, "Clarity Sought On Romney's Abortion Stance," The Boston Globe, 7/3/05) = Ah, back securely in the "flop" saddle again? | Nov. '04: Romney & his wife had simultaneous pro-life "conversions" linked to stem cell research: Romney met w/Dr. Douglas Melton from Harvard Stem Cell Institute: He recalls that it happened in a single revelatory moment, during a Nov. 9, 2004, meeting with an embryonic-stem-cell researcher who said he didn't believe therapeutic cloning presented a moral issue because the embryos were destroyed at 14 days. "It hit me very hard that we had so cheapened the value of human life in a Roe v. Wade environment that it was important to stand for the dignity of human life," Romney says. Source: Time Mag, March 9, 2007 = (So the pro-abortion-but-no-pro-choice-label-please-is-now-a-pro-life-convert?) |
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2005 | May 27 2005: Romney affirms his commitment to being "pro-choice" at a press conference. ("I am absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice.") = OK, this is at least a flop from November '04! | What about his gubernatorial record '03-'06? Mitt later says his actions were ALL pro-life. I assume somewhere in '05 some 'pro-life' decisions. "As governor, Ive had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action Ive taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life, I have stood on the side of life." = So, THESE ACTIONS were not only an '02 commitment reversal, but his May 27, '05 press conference commitment as well. So "flipping" is beginning to be routine |
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2006 | April 12, 2006--Mitt signs his "Commonwealth Care" into existence, thereby expanding abortion access/taxpayer funded abortions for women--including almost 2% of the females of his state who earn $75,000 or more. (Wait a minute, I thought he told us post-'06 that ALL of his actions were "pro-life?"). Also, not only this, but as governor, Romney could exercise veto power to portions of Commonwealth Care. Did Romney exercise this power? (Yes, he vetoed Sections 5, 27, 29, 47, 112, 113, 134 & 137). What prominent section dealing with Planned Parenthood as part of the "payment policy advisory board" did Romney choose NOT to veto? (Section 3) That section mandates that one member of MassHealth Payment Policy Board must be appointed by Planned Parenthood League of MA. (See chapter 58 of the Acts of 2006, section 3 for details). | "As governor, Ive had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action Ive taken as the governor that relates |
Early 2007 | On January 29, 2007 during South Carolina visit, Romney stated: Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice." (Bruce Smith, "Romney Campaigns in SC with Sen. DeMint," The Associated Press, 1/29/07) = OK how could "every action I've taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life..." AND this statement BOTH be true? | Another South Carolina campaign stop has Romney uttering "I was always for life: "I am firmly pro-life I was always for life." (Jim Davenport, "Romney Affirms Opposition to Abortion," The Associated Press, 2/9/2007) = Oh, of course as the above shows, he's always been pro-life! |
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Summer 2007 | "I never said I was pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice." Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate 8/5/2007 = OK...looking at '94 & '02 campaigns, both his public statements, his 2002 voter guide responses, & his actions (which are a major form of expression, ya know!) how could he say he "never said" he was "pro-choice?" | Then comes his 8/12/07 interview with Chris Wallace of Fox: "I never called myself pro-choice. I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice, and so..." = Whatever he was from '70 when his mom ran as pro-abortion senator & he sided w/ her, to 5/27/05, w/whatever interruption he had due to a pro-life altar call in Nov of '04, whatever that was...well, he assures us it wasn't a pro-abortion 'inlook' or outlook 'cause he didn't feel "pro-choice..." = So does that make him a life-long pro-lifer? |
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December 2007 vs. November 2011 (Pro-treating offspring as research refuse late in previous POTUS campaign vs. now claiming 'never changed...always pro-life' | December 5, 2007: Romney: ...surplus embryos...Those embryos, I hope, could be available for adoption for people who would like to adopt embryos. But if a parent decides they would want to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable. It should not be made against the law." Any "inquiring minds" want to try wrapping their minds around how a politician in one sentence mentions "adopting" embryos out (yes, a great thing to mention!) -- but then in the very NEXT breath says if a "PARENT" wants to be "pro-choice" (Mitt used the word "decides" which is what "pro-choicers" say they want) "to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable." Say what???? How about 8-month gestationally-aged infants in the womb, Mitt? Or already-born infants, too, Mitt? If a "parent decides they would want to donate one of those...for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable..." No??? What's the 'pro-life' difference, Mitt? Here you call an embryo's mom&dad "parents" -- but "parents" w/ "research" give-away rights? How bizarre we have such schizophrenic "candidate!" | In the past youve said hes changed positions only once, on abortion. Was that your doing? No, no, I never talked to Mitt about that. Our personal opinions have never changed; weve always been pro-life (a href=http://www.parade.com/news/2011/12/4-ann-romney-profile.html>Ann Romney Reveals Mitt's Softer Side) |
Now she’s lying for him, like a good goddess in training should do (or stepford wife - same difference).
So all that means is that she is lying for her husband just as she does for her lds god.
Folks! Mitt is not the one. I believe he might beat Obama and ANYONE would be better; but we need something more than the "not Obama" candidate. Mitt would be right in there with the old Republican guard, protecting their turf instead of making this country right.
Compromise would be the elephant in the room, and every attempt to right this country would be watered down.
The old Repub Guard and DC insiders do not get it! They think we are just moseying on down the familiar road. They don't understand that we have wandered into the wilderness without sufficient supplies to keep us alive.
No Mitt!
No crazy Ron Paul! He has some good fiscal ideas, but he is off the reservation on foreign plicy, and he rants like a crazy man.
vaudine
BUMP.
She’s lying - he’s lying, she’s lying for him.
NO ROMNEY’S!!
Yep, a couple of hardcore liars who will never EVER get to the WH on the Republican ticket..
We should elect Romney so that he’ll have an opportunity to decide once and for all what his position on various political questions has always been.
As I understand it, Romney was once a pastor (or whatever they call them) for the Mormon church.
So, do the mormons also baptize aborted children?
Has Pastor Mitt-Kolob-Romney ever baptized murdered babies that were butchered during the abortions that he had supported?
Yes, the are clearly lying.... and she just made herself fair game.
Yes, they are clearly lying.... and she just made herself fair game.
As I understand it, Romney was once a pastor (or whatever they call them) for the Mormon church.
So, do the mormons also baptize aborted children?
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The position is called Bishop. He was also a Stake President (which is the equiv to a Catholic Bishop).
They don’t baptize children at all, since it is believed they cannot sin until age 8 and they are baptized (often) on their 8th birthday.
Regarding abortion, I know of no babies, either aborted or miscarried that ever had any ‘temple work’ (baptism and such for the dead), partly because the LDS don’t really believe life begins at conception. AFAIK, there isn’t an official position of when the ‘spirit child’ enters the body but most of my LDS friends believe it is late or right near delivery.
To most LDS women who have abortions (usually young unwed mothers who don’t want to get caught having sex) the thought is that the baby (its spirit) will have another chance to get a body (the whole point of them having kids) and be able to progress later so they convince themselves it isn’t killing a child or having a child die (in the case of miscarriage).
Projectile vomit at Rail Gun speeds!
Thank you for your insight.....
Strange belief system they have.
Strange is an understatement.
Unbelievable comes to mind until you start doing research. Then there is the “OMG!!!” period, then you just shake your head. The more you know about Mormonism the weirder it gets.
LIAR, LIAR Ann Romney.
"It's a great campaign tactic by the opposition," Ann says. "They say he flip-flopped on abortion. Well, you know what? He did change his mind. It took courage. I'm really proud of him, to really study an issue and really come to that. That is the only change he's made, and I believe it's a change in the right direction. He hasn't changed his position on anything except choice, and that has been very public, and it has never been a change in his personal philosophy."
Here they are on video affirming their prochoice commitment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GKwVNUz52vo
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The fundraising and donating to Planned Parenthood reinforces the strength of that commitment.
As ABC News first reported, Romney and his wife went so far as to attend a Planned Parenthood fundraising house party in 1994 and wrote that $150 check to the group. Running for governor in April 2002, Romney put his mouth where his money was in a questionnaire submitted to the organization:
Do you support the substance of the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade? YES
Do you support state funding of abortion services through Medicaid for low-income women? YES
In 1998 the FDA approved the first packaging of emergency contraception, also known as the “morning after pill.” Emergency contraception is a high dose combination of oral contraceptives that if taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex, can safely prevent a pregnancy from occurring. Do you support efforts to increase access to emergency contraception? YES
Yes, indeed. I agree.
His mother supported abortion!
Here is Ann Romney laughing off her donation to Planned Parenthood, to Fox.
http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/2118/15749
By the way, Mitt explains that the death of a family friend in 1963 turned he and his family pro-abortion.
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