Progressives and the Ron Paul fallacies

Salon ^ | 12/31/2011 | Glenn Greenwald

[birddog]

As I’ve written about before, America’s election season degrades mainstream political discourse even beyond its usual lowly state. The worst attributes of our political culture — obsession with trivialities, the dominance of horserace “reporting,” and mindless partisan loyalties — become more pronounced than ever. Meanwhile, the actually consequential acts of the U.S. Government and the permanent power factions that control it — covert endless wars, consolidation of unchecked power, the rapid growth of the Surveillance State and the secrecy regime, massive inequalities in the legal system, continuous transfers of wealth from the disappearing middle class to large corporate conglomerates — drone on with even less attention paid than usual.

Because most of those policies are fully bipartisan in nature, the election season — in which only issues that bestow partisan advantage receive attention — places them even further outside the realm of mainstream debate and scrutiny. For that reason, America’s elections ironically serve to obsfuscate political reality even more than it usually is.

[birddog]

This is a great article and should be mandatory reading before the election. I hope more people will take the red pill and realize that the GOP and Dem parties are two sides of the same progressive coin. They are both going to take us to the same place - a new order hell where the freedoms that the founding fathers fought for are gone. Please read Orwell's 1984 - that is where we are going. The only person in this election who will work to preserve our country and our freedom is Ron Paul.

[Thunder90]

Signed up today to post this???!!!

[Thunder90]

Paulbot on the loose...

[RonPaulLives]

I agree with you wholeheartedly. You have been on Free Republic for 13 years; I have been on here for 11 years. Dr. Ron Paul’s views have not changed. My U.S. Senator (and his son) Dr. Rand Paul’s views have not changed. But the majority of Free Republic and the Republican Party sure have changed. So the sheep who blindly follow Unfit Mitt or Newt World Order Gingrich can flame me now if they like. I don’t give a damn. I tell them to kiss my ass.

[donmeaker]

Except the red pill leads to 4 more years of Obama. Even if Obama loses, 4 years of Crazy Uncle Ron will destroy the country. Crazy Ron if he won would be the second most powerful man in the world.

The first most powerful man in the world would be the last person to whisper a lunatic conspiracy theory in his ear.

[Thunder90]

[RonPaulLives]

Signed up today to post this???!!!

Read much?

Their profile says:
birddog
Since Feb 11, 1999

[RobinOfKingston]

The only person in this election who will work to preserve our country and our freedom is Ron Paul.

How do you explain this? bluerepublican.org

The one unacceptable explanation is that they are some sort of ron paul equivalent to the Reagan Democrats.

[decal]

Two-for-one sale in the ZOT aisle at RuPaulMart!

[birddog]

I have been here a long time. And I am about to pull my support – what has happened to FreeRepublic? Where has the exchange of ideas gone? I post a thought provoking article and in less than a couple minutes I’m immediately attacked as a wack job? They haven’t even read the article.

Very sad.....

[dragnet2]

lol...

I’ve notice there are a whole lot of people, that either don’t bother to read, or just can’t comprehend what is written.

[ejonesie22]

Um...

Ok...

(Backing out of room, not breaking eye contact...)

[RonPaulLives]

It’s probably those indoctrination camps (aka public schools) that they attend. Chalk it up to “No Child Left Behind” bureaucracy brought to pass by their hero, George W. Bush.

[ejonesie22]

You post a Salon article by Glenn Greenwald and then ask that?

[RonPaulLives]

I thought you were “backing out of the room”? By the way, per your profile page, how is that Fred Thompson thing working out for you?

[Rooivalk]

Since you are a dyed in the wool Ron Paul supporter perhaps you can answer this question about Mr. Paul: Do you believe that the jihadists are following a strategy and code when they profess hate for America that has nothing to do with American actions in the world? In other words do the jihadists attack America for us being Americans rather than for us having bases in other countries?

Countless times I have spoken with muslims who say they hate Americans for the way our women dress and behave. Or because we refuse to accepting their tenets of believing in the worship of allah as the "one true God"

Please explain to me if you can the Ron Paul idea that if we leave every base we have in the world and return to the continental United States, these true believing muslims will hate us any less. I really am having a hard time with the logic behind the Ron Paul thinking and wish that someone could explain it to me. Can you do it?

[ejonesie22]

I can peer in from a safe distance.

Worked out good, he was a good conservative and a good voice, wish he had done better. far better than the Mullah loving antisemitic dirt-bag Paul.

Hows using liberal propaganda to support the surrender monkey working out for you...

[hosepipe]

True... who knows what to believe these days..

Looks the american people are dead set to hire a RINO as commander in bohica...

[Proud2BeRight]

The time I spent reading that drivel is time I'll never get back. More hidden agenda promoting Paul as the perfect useful idiot to run amok polluting the GOP primary process with his anti-national defense, pro-dope, wacko conspiracy theory ridden crappola.