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FINAL CURTAIN: OBAMA SIGNS IMDEFINITE DETENTION OF CITIZENS INTO LAW AS FINAL ACT OF 2011
JonathanTurley.org ^ | January 2, 2012 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 01/02/2012 5:56:39 PM PST by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2011review; absolutedespotism; agenda; backoffbarry; bho44; bhofascism; bloodoftyrants; bloogwhore; cantspell; charlesjdunlapjr; communsim; corruption; cwii; democrats; detention; donntreadonme; elections; fascism; fredom; govtabuse; longtrainofabuses; lping; marxism; ndaa; nobama2012; nodemocrats2012; norinos2012; obama; policestate; rapeofliberty; turley; tyranny; unconstitutional; usurpations; waronliberty
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Right!


21 posted on 01/02/2012 6:24:24 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: mamelukesabre
Hey, Maybe we can use this against them whenb we take over in 2013.
We can indefinitely detain and execute all of these "Fabian Socialists" and do it without a trial.
Then it could be said, they fulfilled "he shall fall himself into his own pit".
22 posted on 01/02/2012 6:24:37 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: mamelukesabre
Hey, maybe we can use this against them when we take over in 2013.
We can indefinitely detain and execute all of these "Fabian Socialists" and do it without a trial.
Then it could be said, they fulfilled "he shall fall himself into his own pit".
23 posted on 01/02/2012 6:25:23 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: null and void

Alex Jones is nothing more than a fear monger.

I mean, everythings a conspiracy with this guy.

Didn’t know there is a rabid anti-Alex thing, goin on.


24 posted on 01/02/2012 6:25:31 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Yosemitest
Anybody who thinks that George Bush, or most of the current crop of Republican presidential candidates, wouldn't have signed a similar bill is just fooling themselves.

This bill wouldn't have gotten to the president's desk if Republicans and Democrats still cared about the Constitution.

25 posted on 01/02/2012 6:27:04 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Yosemitest

You are apparently suffering from the delusion that republicans are on our side.


26 posted on 01/02/2012 6:29:30 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Yosemitest

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/cas/getdocument.action?billnumber=1540&billtype=hr&congress=112&format=html

H.R. 1540.
Congress has the power to enact this legislation pursuant to the following:
The constitutional authority on which this bill rests is the power of Congress to ``provide for the common defense,’’`raise and support armies,’’ and ``provide and maintain a navy,’’ as enumerated in Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution.

Response to Mr. McKeon and Congress:

First Amendment
Freedom of Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly, and Petition

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Second Amendment
Right to Keep and Bear Arms

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Third Amendment
No Quartering of Soldiers in Time of Peace

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Fourth Amendment
No Unreasonable Search and Seizure

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Fifth Amendment
No Unlawful Imprisonment; Double Jeopardy; Self Incrimination; Due Process

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Sixth Amendment
Right to Speedy Trial; Confronting of Witnesses

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Seventh Amendment
Right to Trial by Jury

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Eighth Amendment
No Excessive Bail; No Cruel or Unusual Punishment

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Ninth Amendment
State Reservation of Rights; Residual Rights to the People

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791
Tenth Amendment
Federal Reservation of Rights; Residual Rights to the State or People

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Proposed by Congress on September 25, 1789, and ratified by the States on December 15, 1791


27 posted on 01/02/2012 6:30:16 PM PST by tumblindice (America's Founding Fathers: All Armed Conservatives)
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To: edcoil

overwhelmingly passed in both houses.


28 posted on 01/02/2012 6:30:41 PM PST by drypowder
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

exactly


29 posted on 01/02/2012 6:34:03 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
This is the second time in recent memory where R's and D's have used a Defense Authorization Bill to increase the power of Gov't and the President.

Recall, in 2007

30 posted on 01/02/2012 6:35:27 PM PST by Theoria
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To: drypowder

Will my cell have a window?


31 posted on 01/02/2012 6:39:25 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

Yes, overlooking the gallows.


32 posted on 01/02/2012 6:42:59 PM PST by null and void (Day 1077 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: edcoil

Yes indeed they did, but obozo signed it into law.


33 posted on 01/02/2012 6:44:23 PM PST by muddler (Chaos is coming..)
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To: Yosemitest

I have nominations for the first dozen to be detained.


34 posted on 01/02/2012 6:48:00 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: Theoria
I see that that bill allowed GWB to take over all state National Guard troops if/when he decided it was necessary.

If a state really cared about "states rights" then it would kick the National Guard out. It would then replace it with a true state militia funded entirely by state revenues.

Then if the nation were to go to war that state could have a separate vote to see if their citizens wanted their militia to join forces with the national defense forces.

The state militia could be used to protect its borders from invasion by illegals, and any unconstitutional usurpations from the feds.

Of course the Feds would win a hot war, but in this day and age of 24/7 news cycles any hot war would be preceded by a cold one that could easily be won by an underdog militia threatening to defend itself against a bloated federal army.

35 posted on 01/02/2012 6:58:36 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
'The state militia could be used to protect its borders from invasion by illegals, and any unconstitutional usurpations from the feds.'

Keep in mind, only Congress and a State has the power to engage in War. I always find that interesting. The Constitution allows for a State to defend itself.

36 posted on 01/02/2012 7:01:19 PM PST by Theoria
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To: jivin gene
Useful idiots, all.

They know exactly whats going on, I'm afraid.

37 posted on 01/02/2012 7:04:05 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Yosemitest
You do not “support our troops” by denying the principles for which they are fighting. They are not fighting to consolidate authoritarian powers in the President.

Maybe they don't know they're fighting to consolidate totalitarian powers for the President, but they are...

38 posted on 01/02/2012 7:05:42 PM PST by GOPJ (Lets make 'Corrupt Liberal Media' a household term. - - freeper Uncle Lonny)
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To: mamelukesabre

The only way to possibly get the media to say anything is if one of the lefties in the media gets “indefinite detention”. How can this possibly be the least bit Constitutional?


39 posted on 01/02/2012 7:10:25 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: edcoil

It was a bi-partisan bill, we cannot place total blame for this one on Obama. Many Republicans sold us out .

The SAupreme Court should bring this up on their own as Unconstitutional.


40 posted on 01/02/2012 7:15:09 PM PST by Venturer
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