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Mystery trust beats the clock for lottery jackpot
http://news.yahoo.com/mystery-trust-beats-clock-lottery-jackpot-213010349.html ^

Posted on 12/30/2011 6:39:53 PM PST by Orange1998

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To: FewsOrange; Jonty30
Nonsense, nothing rhymes with orange, not even orange.

Door hinge.

41 posted on 12/31/2011 2:52:55 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal

Wealth and "stuff" comes and goes and will not sustain our eternal souls. However, having a lot of money also enables one to do good while on the earth. If I had a fortune, I'd set up my kids, treat myself and my wife to some of the pleasures it affords, and spend the rest on charitable/Christian causes.

42 posted on 12/31/2011 4:31:55 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Orange1998

Ah, that’s the ticket. They stole the ticket from me. Here’s my bank account number. Thanks.


43 posted on 12/31/2011 5:36:52 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Krankor

“I thought most lotteries stipulate you agree to some level of publicity if you win.”

At least one state lets you be anonymous.

Many states let a trust be the winner. So the Trust’s name is what gets publicized .You could go your whole life without relatives knowing you won the lottery if you keep your mouth shut. I think there is a natural propensity to share the information in the excitement. Then your relatives can take a hit out on you - as has been the case with several lottery winners.

I saw one expert say that you really need two trusts. One to pick it up and then you have that one hand it over to another trust.


44 posted on 12/31/2011 6:23:32 AM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: Orange1998
Makes sense but the state will make it difficult to claim. The states clearly wants it.

Legally, I don't think the state can demand the identity of the beneficiary of the trust.

If Iowa law requires that only an individual can claim a ticket, they might have a supportable position. Otherwise:

If the state refuses to pay the bearer of a valid ticket, the integrity of the entire lottery is in question. If they can refuse to pay it now for an arbitrary reason, they can refuse to pay it to anyone for any reason.

For obvious reasons, the state wants to be sure the ticket is valid. I don't think they have (yet) claimed it is invalid.

There is plenty of legal precedent for a trust or partnership claiming a lottery ticket in other states. Any problem is being created by the state of Iowa, and unless they have legislation specifically requiring that an individual must personally claim a ticket, they are opening them up to legal action -- which they will lose.

45 posted on 12/31/2011 6:28:47 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

The State may eventually find out by virtue of the K1 and taxable income that is distributed.


46 posted on 12/31/2011 6:36:03 AM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: RummyChick
The State may eventually find out by virtue of the K1 and taxable income that is distributed.

That's true. But, that information is confidential, by law.

The individual will still be able to remain anonymous from deadbeat relatives, and "newfound" friends.

The real reason that lotteries don't want anonymous winners is they want to use the winner's name and picture for promotional purposes. I think the Texas Lottery law specifically says that.

47 posted on 12/31/2011 7:17:30 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: trebb

Wealth is not evil. Just the LUST FOR IT.


48 posted on 12/31/2011 4:07:15 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: MD Expat in PA
But I guess that takes some time and no small upfront expense to do so.

A simple family trust can be set up for $500.....

49 posted on 12/31/2011 6:44:23 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Orange1998

Maybe.....but, I can’t remember.


50 posted on 12/31/2011 6:45:37 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Graybeard58

Who you...calling old????


51 posted on 12/31/2011 6:47:01 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Osage Orange
Well, it did take you 23 and a half hours to catch the reference!
52 posted on 12/31/2011 7:14:39 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Graybeard58
I actually have a job...............

Can't post 24/7...

Ha!!

53 posted on 01/01/2012 6:46:43 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Osage Orange
I actually have a job

I should hope so! Somebody has to keep S.S. solvent so greedy old geezers like me can keep on FReepin'.

On a series note, did you once tell me that you were of Huguenot descent? Or am I getting my oranges mixed up? My great (several greats) grand pappy fled France for England soon after the revocation of the Edict of Nantes and thank goodness he did or I'd be speaking French right now. He came to Virginia to a land grant in or around 1690.

54 posted on 01/01/2012 7:25:35 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Graybeard58

The only Frenchy’s in my background...were probably trappers/hunters out of Canada..that married into the Great Lakes Indian tribes...


55 posted on 01/02/2012 6:47:15 AM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Orange1998

....my guess is someone “troubled” by deciding which social security number they should use to claim the prize....which one of the bogus ones would give them enough time to go back to their country and change back to their original name....*smiles*


56 posted on 01/27/2012 5:32:00 AM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: dr_lew

“....[mutter, mutter] take my traveler’s checks to a competing resort...” < / tongue tied >


57 posted on 01/27/2012 5:46:20 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Osage Orange

The real winner, the actual purchaser, was murdered and the ticket stolen. The murderers went back and forth between risking life in prison, and getting $10 million. Filing the lottery ticket at the last minute was a desperate last minute change of mind. There is no mystery here.


58 posted on 01/27/2012 9:16:19 AM PST by CGalen
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