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To: mnehring

Does history bear out the fact there’s money to be made in playing “victim?” Yes. It applies across the board to humankind. If Israel is so smart and capable of prosperity, why do they need billions from the USA? People of Jewish faith deserve better, yet we treat them no differently than our ever-growing welfare population.


33 posted on 12/30/2011 2:40:31 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Almost all aid to Israel is military, and most of that is earmarked to be spent in the USA. And that aid is only necessary because the USA bribes and arms surrounding Muslim countries, putting Israel at risk.


35 posted on 12/30/2011 2:47:19 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I really didn’t directly respond because I figured you know this, but anyone who looks closely at the ‘aid’ we supply Israel it generally is on one primary front military aid. Military aid comes form our mutual defense treaties and isn’t just handing them cash but sharing resources. It really isn’t a lot either. A half dozen F111s would run over a hundred million. At that, if you look at the actual ‘foreign aid’ to Israel, most of it isn’t cash but resources and often it isn’t even ‘given’ but sold.

The question then is, is it in our interest. If one looks at the history of the region, one can see having a stable democratic society is like an outpost for our interests there. The existence of Israel could be preventing the Ottoman Empire Part II which would put a stranglehold on our economic interests.

The sad part about the world, but part of the reality we live in is influence has to be purchased. Even if we don’t want to, other nations will. Purchasing influence with cash or goods is far cheaper than trading bullets. Yea, it needs to be reigned in but the reality of how the cogs of the wold work can’t be ignored.


38 posted on 12/30/2011 2:55:17 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I don’t consider a country where EVERYONE serves in the military to be a victim of any sort. They deserve my tax money far more than our domestic welfare slackers who have no sense of duty, honor, patriotism, self-respect, dignity or work ethic.


45 posted on 12/30/2011 3:37:06 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Obama in 2012!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Israel would be better off without the 3 Billion in Foreign and Military Aid. It’s GDP is 217 Billion. We give more miltary aid to Israel’s potential enemies. Cut it all.


87 posted on 01/02/2012 3:53:35 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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