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To: Smokeyblue

What do people want him to say? This has been heard by numerous courts, it has been vastly investigated, they have produced a birth certificate certified by the state of hawaii and the list goes on. He answered the issue with class and also dinged Obama pretty good while he was doing it. The birth certificate debacle is a non-starter so why give it any time?


81 posted on 12/29/2011 5:41:33 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Toespi

“All I can report is the state of Hawaii has certified that he was born there,” Gingrich continued.

That is all he can report.......As an after thought why wasn’t this thread titled, Gingrich refers to Obama as a terrible president?


93 posted on 12/29/2011 5:53:46 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Sigh.

No court has heard this case. They all said it was not the plaintiff’s business, that it was either too late or too early to do anything about it, or that not enough was at stake.

I have shown on my blog that neither the short-form nor the long-form was legally certified by HI. (My blog is at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com and if you look around you can find the information I’m talking about; let me know if you need direct links.)

The short-form has a “seal” that didn’t distort when the paper it was supposedly on was folded, so it is clearly photoshopped onto the photo image. (I used the scientific method to try to replicate the result that the photo had on it, and there is no way that “seal” was on that paper when it was folded; that result can never be replicated in real life.)

And the long-form has neither the 2 1/4 inch official DOH seal (the remnants of a seal are about a 1/2 inch too small) nor the image of the State of Hawaii seal - at least one of which is required to be on an officially-certified copy of a birth certificate according to the Administrative Rules governing vital records. So the rules themselves tell us that this was not officially, legally certified by the HI Department of Health. If they sent Obama a legally certified copy as they claimed, it was something different than what Obama posted, and they know that full well.

But then, the HDOH has been caught in a LOT of really fishy stuff. That’s on my blog as well.

Which seems to be pretty common when dealing with Obama’s records, since E-verify shows that the social security number Obama has been using was never issued to him - a fact also indirectly confirmed by Judge Lamberth who agreed that the gender of any person who applied and received that number has not already been disclosed - which wouldn’t be the case if Obama was the person who applied for and received the number that he disclosed on his tax return.

And the Selective Service Administration disclosed a draft registration form that had an automatic date stamp of 08, not the ‘80 that they tried to pass it off as having. IOW, somebody at that office forged a registration form for Obama in 2008.

The Passport Office had 3 breaches of Obama’s passport file - all of which involved ignoring the security protocols just for those 3 times. The inspector general didn’t even claim to have investigated whether Obama’s file was altered.

The Passport Office also submitted to a judge a “cable” that claimed that tens of thousands of passport applications were destroyed after the retention period was changed - even though the required records of such a change and such a destruction don’t exist. And records that would supposedly have been destroyed actually were NOT destroyed, because they’ve been disclosed.

The judges who have been involved in the cases have engaged in numerous ethics breaches - some of them flagrant.

There is way, way more to be said than I can get in this one post, but this is a start.


113 posted on 12/29/2011 6:19:33 PM PST by butterdezillion
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