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ATF Management To Treat Gunwalker Crimes As Personnel Policy Violations
Ammoland ^
| 29 December, 2011
| David Codrea
Posted on 12/29/2011 1:53:52 PM PST by marktwain
USA --(Ammoland.com)- Heres one sure way to tell if the CYA higher-ups are serious, Gun Rights Examiner wrote yesterday, citing Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives management blaming lower-level employees for the Fast and Furious gunwalking scandal:
Will they dare help prosecute their allegedly wayward underlings, and risk them telling what they know? Or will they just point fingers down the ladder, all the while insisting no crimes have been committed, and counting on that to keep those being blamed (but not prosecuted) from lawyering up and spilling their guts?
I would place my money on the latter, an insider source informed this correspondent.
Acting Director B. Todd Jones echoed that expectation in the December 24 Los Angeles Times puff-piece
About David Codrea: David Codrea is a long-time gun rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He is a field editor for GUNS Magazine, and a blogger at The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance. Read more at www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/david-codrea
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; ffcoverup; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama; personnelpolicy; ppviolations
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Coverups have become predictable.
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posted on
12/29/2011 1:54:07 PM PST
by
marktwain
To: MestaMachine
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posted on
12/29/2011 1:55:20 PM PST
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
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posted on
12/29/2011 1:55:40 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
To: marktwain
Low-level ATF agents have a lot of power. They coordinated a rogue operation between the ATF, FBI, DEA, DOJ, DHS, BP, ICE and the IRS.
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posted on
12/29/2011 1:59:20 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...
Oh, good Lord!!! They are at it again!
PING!
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posted on
12/29/2011 2:00:51 PM PST
by
MestaMachine
(obama kills)
To: TigersEye
Not to mention the transfers of megabucks between agencies, ...which is blatantly illegal. And you left out the state department and the cia. Or is that cYa?
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posted on
12/29/2011 2:05:45 PM PST
by
MestaMachine
(obama kills)
To: TigersEye
Low-level ATF agents have a lot of power. They coordinated a rogue operation between the ATF, FBI, DEA, DOJ, DHS, BP, ICE and the IRS. Not only that, but they are able to keep their bosses from firing them, or even investigating their activities very stringently. (unless of course, they suggest that the higher ups have some responsibility. Then they are savagely attacked)
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posted on
12/29/2011 2:06:59 PM PST
by
marktwain
To: MestaMachine
I know how to tie the State Dept. and the CIA to “grenade walker” but I don’t recall seeing any info that directly ties them to any of the ATF’s “gun walking” operations. If you have a link to a story I missed that does I want it.
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posted on
12/29/2011 2:17:05 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...
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posted on
12/29/2011 2:24:44 PM PST
by
Nachum
(The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
To: marktwain
When power appears to increase as you go down the chain of command I think that means
someone is vigorously pushing responsibility down and away from himself. But that person would have to be insulated from any command above himself or be fully supported by it.
Who Can It Be Now?
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posted on
12/29/2011 2:25:25 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
To: marktwain; MestaMachine
I pray the Days of the ATF are numbered, sadly I do not know if they are.
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posted on
12/29/2011 2:30:00 PM PST
by
KC_Lion
(I won't vote for a Pseudo Democrat Like I did in '08, I will write in Sarah's name if I have too!)
To: TigersEye
To: MestaMachine
OK, I look forward to it.
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posted on
12/29/2011 2:41:52 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
To: marktwain
Brian Terry must have violated section 1, Part 1:
It’s not about the law.
To: TigersEye
A lot of it is already in there. The last part, part 4 is not out yet..
To: KC_Lion
They will ramp up after the election if obama stays in office. Bet on it.
To: MestaMachine
They wont have too because if they do, it will be April 1861 all over again, because of the kind of crap the ATF tries to pull here.
We want to chart our own destiny not have it be dictated by our Progressive Masters.
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posted on
12/29/2011 3:12:58 PM PST
by
KC_Lion
(I won't vote for a Pseudo Democrat Like I did in '08, I will write in Sarah's name if I have too!)
To: marktwain
WHERE IS THE OUTCRY FROM CONGRESS FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.
Damn straight I’m yelling.
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posted on
12/29/2011 3:13:18 PM PST
by
Vaquero
("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
To: TigersEye
Low-level ATF agents have a lot of power. They coordinated a rogue operation between the ATF, FBI, DEA, DOJ, DHS, BP, ICE and the IRS.Good one! Those be powerful underlings!
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posted on
12/29/2011 7:06:08 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
To: MestaMachine; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...
Some interesting comments in here. Check out article, too.
Thanks Mesta.
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posted on
12/29/2011 8:07:15 PM PST
by
LucyT
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