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Israeli Girl, 8, at Center of Tension Over Religious Extremism
The New York Times ^ | December 27th, 2011 | ISABEL KERSHNER

Posted on 12/28/2011 2:46:34 AM PST by KantianBurke

BEIT SHEMESH, Israel — The latest battleground in Israel’s struggle over religious extremism covers little more than a square mile of this Jewish city situated between Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, and it has the unexpected public face of a blond, bespectacled second-grade girl.

She is Naama Margolese, 8, the daughter of American immigrants who are observant modern Orthodox Jews. An Israeli weekend television program told the story of how Naama had become terrified of walking to her elementary school here after ultra-Orthodox men spit on her, insulted her and called her a prostitute because her modest dress did not adhere exactly to their more rigorous dress code.

The country was outraged. Naama’s picture has appeared on the front pages of all the major Israeli newspapers. While Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insisted Sunday that “Israel is a democratic, Western, liberal state” and pledged that “the public sphere in Israel will be open and safe for all,” there have been days of confrontation at focal points of friction here.

Ultra-Orthodox men and boys from the most stringent sects have hurled rocks and eggs at the police and journalists, shouting “Nazis” at the security forces and assailing female reporters with epithets like “shikse,” a derogatory Yiddish term for a non-Jewish woman or girl, and “whore.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: children; israel; zealots
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To: battletank
Glad you are happy to follow the Church “rules”. I am sure others are happy to follow their Church “rules” as well. You are outraged that people follow their “rules” of how to dress, but you are happy to follow the Church “rules” on your dietary consumption. Got it.

You did not get it. As I said previously in this thread: "People within a group may agree to dress a certain way but the rabbis do not possess God-given authority to make up and enforce exacting rules upon everyone."

81 posted on 12/28/2011 1:35:54 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Former Fetus

Enforcing rules of dress within a church is different from attacking people walking down the street. However if you were dressed modestly, the priest was mistaken. It is also mistaken to give up on the Catholic faith in the face of trials.


82 posted on 12/28/2011 1:46:14 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Jewbacca

Your attempt to redirect blame for this incident upon Muslims is as ridiculous as the earlier attempts in this thread to redirect blame upon zealous people of other religions.


83 posted on 12/28/2011 1:58:24 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Wow, you’re as delusional as you are bigoted if you got me “blaming muslims” anywhere on this thread.

Didn’t your sub-sect of the Roman Church get kicked out as heretics?


84 posted on 12/28/2011 2:14:02 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Tzar

“There is an honor killing trial going on in Canada.”

And apparently, an honor killing in Texas by a muslim dressed as Santa Claus, killing 6.

But there are media and posters (e.g,. the re-tread zot “mas cervaza”) who look for for every reason and example of random Jewish people behaving — because it fits their agenda.


85 posted on 12/28/2011 2:17:23 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

“Wow, you’re as delusional as you are bigoted if you got me “blaming muslims” anywhere on this thread. Didn’t your sub-sect of the Roman Church get kicked out as heretics?”

Sub-sect? What are you talking about? It sounds like you are the delusional and bigoted one. And what do Muslims have to do with this thread?


86 posted on 12/28/2011 2:28:34 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

So, what was your pre-zot screen name?


87 posted on 12/28/2011 2:30:42 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

I do not have a pre-zot screen name. What was yours, Darth Evader?


88 posted on 12/28/2011 2:40:33 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Yes, I man the Death Star of David.

Jim Robinson, a man of great faith, defends Israel and is a friend to the Jewish people, is our host.

He doesn’t take kindly to anti-semite trolls like you.


89 posted on 12/28/2011 3:02:41 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

“Yes, I man the Death Star of David.”

Do you resort to a false charge of anti-semitism for everyone you are not “man” enough to debate?


90 posted on 12/28/2011 3:12:24 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

A review of your posting history reveals you to be the anti-semite that you are, zot bait.


91 posted on 12/28/2011 3:17:18 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

LOL. Your posting history reveals an obsession with accusing everybody and his brother of anti-semitism. Why am I not surprised?


92 posted on 12/28/2011 4:50:19 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: KantianBurke

The New York Times routinely goes out of its way and stretches to find ways to dig up highly atypical events about which they can do articles that put Orthodox Jews in a bad light. The New York Times


94 posted on 12/28/2011 10:16:06 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Yeah. Its all a conspiracy by the New York Times - rolls eyes. Meanwhile a 3 second Google search turned up the following:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-12-27/israel-extremists-girl/52240554/1

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57348852/israeli-girl-jeered-on-daily-walk-highlights-rift/

http://www.smh.com.au/world/fury-at-ultraorthodox-jews-after-girl-abused-20111228-1pcv4.html

http://www.freep.com/article/20111229/NEWS07/112290477/Israelis-protest-against-religious-extremists-after-girl-accosted-on-way-to-school

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israeli-8-year-old-returns-to-school-for-first-time-since-accosted-by-haredi-men-1.404354

Quit trying to turn away from bad behavior.


95 posted on 12/29/2011 4:50:20 AM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: KantianBurke

No one is defending these assholes, especially not Jewish people -— note it is felloww Orthodox Jews who lead the protest against these assholes and are putting it to a stop.

The point is that the MSM (as shown by your post) makes this a huge deal, when giving arabs (who kill, rape, and kidnap) a pass.

Similarly, the MSM lump all Haredi together, when Haredi are the ones who are standing guard and protecting her from the NKs* who are harassing her.

* NKs are the Haredi who stand with Iran against the modern state of Israel.


96 posted on 12/29/2011 8:54:33 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.008f37e075e8246666ba7f1fd81b17b7.461&show_article=1

Which kind of Haredi is that guy?


97 posted on 12/29/2011 5:30:25 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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