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Gingrich Unloads on Paul: Worse Than Obama
NationalJournal ^ | 12-27-2011 | Jill Lawrence

Posted on 12/27/2011 7:11:24 PM PST by bimboeruption

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To: bimboeruption

Reading old diaries of my family genealogy, I see that part of the American idea was NOT to be the police that go fixing every small countries civil disturbances. Time to let nations fix their own messes, I’d vote for Ron Paul, in a New York minute.


41 posted on 12/27/2011 9:15:31 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: napscoordinator; bwc2221
Re: Rasmussen

A poll taken a year before the actual election is absolutely meaningless. I like Santorum but he just doesn't have what it takes to stand up against the Obama lie and hate machine. Newt on the other hand is the only candidate who has the brains, toughness, courage and experience to defeat the ugliness that's headed toward the Republican candidate.

I'm a pragmatist and realist. I want a Republican who will win against the Communist totalitarian in the White House. If it takes bare knuckles so be it. I'm sick and tired of sending naive, ineffectual candy-asses into battle with Mafiosi.

Newt's conservative credentials speak for themselves if anyone cares to look at them objectively. I think any real Christian would try to forgive his worldly trespasses.

I think of Benjamin Franklin who fathered an illegitimate son before he was 20 and lived for years in a common law marriage. He spent years in debauchery while serving in France and England but was a powerful creative and brilliant force in the formation of the American ideal. In my mind Newt and Ben share a lot of traits in common.

42 posted on 12/27/2011 9:24:23 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: hosepipe
If the american people DO NOT want a conservative.. SO BE IT..

I understand the ideological purity of your position. I don't agree with it. Newt is as conservative as either Bachman or Santorum, neither of whom can win against Obama.

Another Obama term will destroy America. I can't believe that's what you want to gamble on. I'll take Newt with all his warts and combative brilliance.

43 posted on 12/27/2011 9:31:15 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

[ Newt is as conservative as either Bachman or Santorum ]

Newt is proudly a progressive as he brags about.. he sees nothing wrong with being progressive..
The thing you are missing is that Obama is also progressive..
as are most all elected democrats and many republicans..

Evidently you and most other american have no idea of what it means to be a (so called)”progressive”..

President Wilson and both Rooseveldts were progressives..
All versions of socialists and Marxists are progressives..
The progressive agenda is 180 degrees out of sync from the American Constitution..


44 posted on 12/27/2011 10:01:41 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: outofstyle

Im not a fan of the inside job theory. But as an engineer I do question how a building can fall at near free fall speed without it being a controlled detonation(lower floors begin to fall before upper floors resulting in free fall speed). The explanation given was a pancake effect which means that upper floors hit lower ones and made them fall from the weight, which means alot of resistance and would take alot longer than freefall speed to come crashing down.
Alot of people are either too naive or just dont want to believe it that black bag operations are done and have been done in the past to further international efforts.
Im speaking from an engineering stand point,and there are many engineering and architechtural professionals that agree with the assessment that the buildings were taken down via controlled demolition. This doesnt mean that the attacks didnt happen by the perpetrators, simply that the buildings had to have had critical support colums destroyed at specific intervals so as to have lower floors give way before the upper floors came crashing down.


45 posted on 12/27/2011 10:03:25 PM PST by hannibaal
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To: hannibaal

Do you honestly have any idea what’s required for a controlled detonation? There would have had to be teams of explosives experts all over those two buildings for weeks to set up such a thing. Do you really believe no one would have noticed that? If you do, you’re as looney as all the other conspiracy theorists, “speaking from an engineering stand point” or not.


46 posted on 12/27/2011 10:48:13 PM PST by Doug Loss
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To: hosepipe
Evidently you and most other american have no idea of what it means to be a (so called)”progressive”..

I disagree that Newt's a "progressive" in your definition. I have a very good idea of the term's meaning and its history in U.S. politics going back to Teddy Roosevelt.

TR believed in empowering labor unions. Newt doesn't.

TR sought to raise taxes on the rich and erect a centralized bureaucracy. Newt doesn't.

TR hated the old constitutional republic, believing it to be a relic of the past. Newt understands and believes in the constitution and works to keep it functional. Recent case in point, his constitutional view of keeping the judiciary in balance via separation of powers with the Executive and Legislative branches.

TR was an imperialist who favored the warfare state and nation building. I don't see any evidence that Newt is in that camp.

TR was a racist who believed that "inferior" races -- Eastern and Southern Europeans, blacks and asians -- were destined to be absorbed by Northern European Anglo-Saxon civilization. He paved the way for Margaret Sanger, the Eugenics movement, and ultimately Hitler's genocide of the Jews.

Obama, not Newt Gingrich, is the direct descendant of TR's progressivism. He even acknowledged that recently with his speech in Osawatomie, Kan., the same place Roosevelt made the case for what he called the New Nationalism in a speech in Osawatomie, Kansas, on August 31, 1910.

47 posted on 12/27/2011 11:00:16 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Doug Loss

My point was that the explanation that they gave does not match with the physics of what happened.


48 posted on 12/27/2011 11:09:59 PM PST by hannibaal
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To: bimboeruption

Bachmann has not campaigned on a platform, but instead has only torn down other candidates and platforms. She is very good at saying what she is against, but not what she is *FOR*.

And you can’t win anything without laying out a vision of where you want to go.

Until she learns that, she won’t win.


49 posted on 12/28/2011 12:13:33 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: bimboeruption

Pardon.

Forgot to add:

Campaigning against something as opposed to for something has already been a proven failure. Just look at the Kerry campaign of 2004.

He campaigned as the anti-Bush, only saying that he found everything Bush did to be wrong... but never coming out and saying what *HE* was for. And he lost.

From where I stand, Bachmann has adopted Kerry’s tactics (but not his beliefs).


50 posted on 12/28/2011 12:17:56 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: bimboeruption

Newt never really wanted to win—it was, like Trump—a book deal—trying to sell books. Its going to be Mitt—like it or not. Newt will endorse Mittens in the end.


51 posted on 12/28/2011 3:31:14 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

You have a point. Why else would he fail to gather the necessary signatures for Virginia?


52 posted on 12/28/2011 3:33:19 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: gidget7

I know a lot of Paul’s supporters too. Many are rather important grassroots organizers I have worked with on a lot of Republican campaigns over the past 20 years. These are folks who will work 80 hour weeks on the phone and organizing teams of precinct walkers. They are not stoned college students. I think they are wrong to support a guy who is so wrong on defense issues. But I do not want to drive them out of the party.


53 posted on 12/28/2011 7:08:03 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

I hear ya there!! I can’t say I know a lot, but I do know more than several! And I don’t even appreciate them being called outside the realm of decent Americans!!, I can imagine how they will feel when they read/hear it.


54 posted on 12/28/2011 8:49:56 AM PST by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: napscoordinator
......not have a potential First Lady who basically stole.....yada yada

Don't forget the first dog. Gots to know if it craps on the carpet or the lawn.

.Oh, and the cat, does it catch the mice or just sit around getting fat?

I want a First Lady like Anita Hill, as pure as the wind driven snow.

And, if the dog is not a yellow lab, I will be sitting this one out, and that is final.Harumph

55 posted on 12/28/2011 8:59:24 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Bernard Marx

http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/12/13/unbelievable-newt-loves-fdr-models-himself-after-woodrow-wilson-and-admires-seius-andy-stern/

Heres video of Newt saying what I said himself.. (repeatedly)
He simply loves the arch-progessive FDR..

Both Willard and Newt are progressives.. as is Obama..
Next question.. WHAT ARE YOU?...


56 posted on 12/28/2011 10:07:07 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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