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To: Hoodat

No, it means Congress surrendered to Obama. Congress gave Obama the POWER to veto them. So this is just procedural so the incumbent GOP can say they voted against raising the debt ceiling in their re-election ads. That is all this is.

Obama requests raising the debt ceiling. The GOP all vote against it. Obama then vetoes their vote and single-handedly raises the debt ceiling. McConnell gave Obama this power in the August agreement.

This is what has my head exploding. The GOP had ALL the leverage in the debt ceiling and could have demanded real cuts, or a spending cap or anything, for their agreeing to raise the debt ceiling. Instead, the establishment leaders like McGutless & Boner surrendered and caved.

They did agree in a way so they can all run their re-election adds saying “I voted against the debt ceiling and it is Obama’s fault for raising it.” Freepers will know different but your average idiot voter will believe the adds and re-elect their incumbents.

So it is just political theater. The GOP did nothing to really fight o prevent the debt ceiling from being raised. They just want to go on record as “we tried.”

The Stupid Idiotic Worthless Party.


79 posted on 12/27/2011 11:17:09 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (We be fooked.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“No, it means Congress surrendered to Obama.”

That is a good summary. The GOP think they are so smart tip toeing through the tulips and avoiding confrontation with Barry. But what is really happening is obama is skating toward 2012 never having been challenged to back up his jive with a scorable budget. Maybe the reason is the GOP has not pushed for the dims to produce FY budgets is that they intend to continue the baseline budgeting hocus pocus “cuts” and do not want to upset the apple cart.


87 posted on 12/27/2011 12:13:36 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
This is what has my head exploding. The GOP had ALL the leverage in the debt ceiling and could have demanded real cuts, or a spending cap or anything, for their agreeing to raise the debt ceiling. Instead, the establishment leaders like McGutless & Boner surrendered and caved.

You hit the nail on the head! The GOP has squandered every bit of momentum & leverage that they had following the elections in Nov 2010.

The stupidity & cowardice of the Repub elitists is unbelieveable. It's the Stupid Party against the Evil Party and the Evil Party wins everytime. When is our country going to explode in righteous rebellion against the cowards & the evil bastards?

96 posted on 12/27/2011 1:12:36 PM PST by rcrngroup
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