Posted on 12/26/2011 7:29:22 PM PST by TBBT
The latest Ron Paul revelation is that, apparently, he would not have sent American troops to Europe in World War II to stop the Holocaust. I mean, were getting to the point where this sort of thing isnt even surprising anymore. To me, the key passage in this particular story is this:
Paul then looked at me, and I politely thanked him for his time. He smiled at me again and nodded his head, and many of his young followers were also smiling, and nodding their heads in agreement. Clearly, I was the only one in the room who was disturbed by his response.
I think we are long past the point where supporting Paul has become a status symbol of sorts for his supporters. Supporting Paul doesnt say as much about Paul as it does about you and how hip you are. You are not Establishment, you reject conventional thought about how a Presidential candidate should look and act, you are blazing the path for future third way candidates. Consider this fawning and servile piece by Tim Carney in which we are informed that it is the GOP Establishment that has improperly drawn the bounds of permissible dissent at excluding racist cranks, 9/11 truthers, and propagandists for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Yes, Ron Paul is the Barack Obama of 2012, and Tim Carney is playing the part of Andrew Sullivan.
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I think Paul’s support is much, much broader than the young but most definitely not the types that vote for Obama or the the flip-side statist, NewtRomney. The attraction is a actually return to classic liberalism, the foundation of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
RP is the only mainstream vehicle to express many of the Freedom Agenda’s original ideas of small government, private property rights, non-intervention, free market economics, ie; adherence to the Constitution. This thinking has modern historic roots in the early 17th Century. BTW, in 1940 the vast majority of Americans (I read 80%) were against involvement in European war. Now how did we get into this war??? Read Herbert Hoover’s memoirs published in Feb ‘12.
If they could just think for themselves. They are not able to think for themselves. They can only follow their messiah
I think you’re wrong on this. If you are a Ron Paul supporter in this environment, you have made that decision because you have researched it. Does everyone? No. I’m just saying that it’s one thing not to like Paul’s views. Fine and dandy. But I’m getting sick and tired of people being so vile against the younger generation especially. It’s our generation that helped with getting us in this hell spot. They are going to have to pay for it all. IF they truly think Paul can get us out..go for it.
Do you have the same kind of support for Mitt, Newt, Santorum, Bachmann? Are you willing to be called a druggy just for your choice for President?
Someone on one of these threads said that conservatives are scared of getting back to the constitution. I believe they are right. I think there are some crazy followers of Paul, but I see that with all of the candidates..especially on forums like these. But I think the surprise will end up being WHO is supporting Paul besides young voters.
There are a lot of senior voters that can still remember a government that closer followed the Constitution. They’ve seen it all..they are ready for another shot at the early ways.
The world has changed and along with it so has technology.
Welcome to 2012 and beyond.
I'm indifferent to the derision just as I am becoming indifferent to the election.
Good post and moniker, ‘still a free mind’.
The world changes daily, it is the meta changes that serve as history lessons and revisionist history has given a lot more insight into the causes and results of these meta events, if interested I’d recommend “The costs of war: America’s pyrrhic victories” edited by John V. Denson.
http://books.google.com/books?id=0MJCDZBbxJcC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
Freedom isn’t free or bloodless.
I wonder if any of these anti-Paul threads will ever lead us to the candidate who has consistently supported smaller government, and who we’re allowed to support without being called a retard or a traitor. That would be cool.
I can only think of one person running who has deserved the right to be called a traitor, but he has consistently pushed for more earmarks while consistently saying he was against them.
Sadly, they’re as impervious to evidence as liberals are.
This is a fair minded account of RP’s supporters. I believe RP certainly has his share of flaws but the attraction is he offers a glimpse of what a fair number of Americans desire a small, limited Government based on Constitution original-ism; limited powers, free enterprise, rule of law, etc. And yet the rabid attacks on RP are off the charts and despicable from these ?Conservatives? as bad as from the rabid KosKid left. It is an eye opener and may be similar to the reaction of the Whig party as after their 30 years of failure to ram a National Bank down the throats of Americans finally collapsed and the Whigs mostly joined what became the Republican Party where they finally realized their great National Bank dreams in 1917. Maybe it’s time to finish off the Whigs.
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