Posted on 12/26/2011 10:23:56 AM PST by Nachum
There are currently many news stories and blog discussions about the Virginia presidential primary ballot access law. Some large blogs, such as Red State, have over 300 comments about the story. Some defend the current Virginia ballot access laws on the grounds that in past presidential elections, a fairly large number of Republican presidential primary candidates managed to qualify.
But what has not been reported is that in the only other presidential primaries in which Virginia required 10,000 signatures (2000, 2004, and 2008) the signatures were not checked. Any candidate who submitted at least 10,000 raw signatures was put on the ballot. In 2000, five Republicans qualified: George Bush, John McCain, Alan Keyes, Gary Bauer, and Steve Forbes. In 2004 there was no Republican primary in Virginia. In 2008, seven Republicans qualified: John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, and Alan Keyes.
(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...
Blatantly obvious what`s going on.
Fix is in for Romney RINO.
The RINOs in VA are about to get a very rude awakening.
This is the undated letter.
The PDF file contains a hidden Microsoft Word creation date of 12/21/2011.
No problem, all the GOP has to do is change the rules back. After all, the DNC did it for Lautenberg in NJ.
Does that include the RINO-in-Chief John Warner? Where is he now?
Or was this simply a cover your A$$ letter?
If the candidates started their petitions drive in good faith and ASSUMED the old laws were in effect, I would think those petitions should be Grandfathered in. You can't just change the laws in mid stream of something, well maybe they can, how convenient.
15000 names do not have to be checked, by volunteers? But, 10600 names WILL HAVE TO BE CHECKED by volunteers checking other volunteers work????
Can't 5001 of those 15000 be false as well?
agree 100% on the GOP changing the rules...the DNC didn’t change the rules in NJ- they just changed the candidates during the period they were no allowed to make a switch and broke the rules but the pu$$y GOP never fought them over it...
The only real solution to this mess is for VA GOP voters to vote for Ron Paul. A Paul win in VA means fewer delegates for Romney
Too bad so many are caught up in the FOX/MSNBC/CNN attacks on Paul, and will not vote for him. However, if Romney wins VA, it will be over for your favorite candidate
The case of Osborne v. Boyles, was on October 24th, where Independent state delegate candidate Michael Osborne filed suit ... But that is not a valid excuse here, because Osborne was running for a STATE office, not a Presidential Primary. http://www.varight.com/news/virginia-may-have-improperly-excluded-signatures-from-perry-gingrich-a-recount-may-be-needed/ Virginia law REQUIRES an address on petitions for state offices: § 24.2-506 ...signed by the number of qualified voters specified below after January 1 of the year in which the election is held and listing the residence address of each such voter. Virginia law does NOT require an address on petitions for Presidential Primaries: § 24.2-545 This law regulating primary signatures is clearly separate. § 24.2-545 specifically does NOT require addresses, nor the signatures to be taken after January 1st. B. Any person seeking the nomination of the national political party for the office of President of the United States, or any group organized in this Commonwealth on behalf of, and with the consent of such person, may file with the State Board petitions signed by at least 10,000 qualified voters, including at least 400 qualified voters from each congressional district in the Commonwealth, who attest that they intend to participate in the primary of the same political party as the candidate for whom the petitions are filed. Such petitions shall be filed with the State Board by the primary filing deadline. The petitions shall be on a form prescribed by the State Board and shall be sealed in one or more containers to which is attached a written statement giving the name of the presidential candidate and the number of signatures on the petitions contained in the containers. Such person or group shall also attach a list of the names of persons who would be elected delegates and alternate delegates to the political partys national convention if the person wins the primary and the party has determined that its delegates will be selected pursuant to the primary. The slate of delegates and alternates shall comply with the rules of the national and state party.It is reasonable for some voters to understand that Virginia law has NEVER required the address on those primary petitions. It is optional, just like the SSN on the presidential petition form is also optional. I believe there is also a recent Virginia court precedent where a petition gatherer was slightly in error on something, and the judge ruled that the voter should not be disenfranchised. The voter's intent to sign the petition outweighed the slight technical difficulty. |
“Who was this letter addressed to, do you know?
Or was this simply a cover your A$$ letter?”
A couple of good points. This whole thing does not pass the sniffer test.
“Blatantly obvious what`s going on.
Fix is in for Romney RINO.”
Yep, it looks like the rules were changed mid-stream.
How much cash do you get to post for Paul?
Absolute nonsense. I won’t vote for Ron Paul not because of FOX, etc. but because of Ron Paul himself. He’s a crazy old man who would harm this country. Every time he opens his mouth that is made clearer and clearer.
You Ron Paul cultists are as crazy as he is.
From GOP Chairman’s letter:
“If any candidate submits fewer than 15,000 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions statewide or fewer than 600 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions in one or more of the 11 Congressional Districts, the Republican Party of Virginia will individually verify signatures until the 10,000 signature statewide threshold and/or 400 per Congressional district is met.”
Seems like a legal promise that the verification process is ongoing-— no deadline. The omitted candidates should be allowed to amend their petitions to meet the threshold— so long as they can amass the requisite support.
So where does Newt and even Perry go from here? also, will they be excluded from the Virginia debates? if there are any? what options are available now? imo the fix has been in and way before Virginia. Romney is going to be IT or else...by any means possible.
He will lose to Obama
That’s the whole point. They cannot go anywhere. We have been played again by the GOP AND the Obama machine.
With Romney’s petitions it’s probable 100% of them are forgeries.
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