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RCP: Iowa Republican Presidential Caucus Poll - December 26, 2011
Real Clear Politics ^ | December 26, 2011

Posted on 12/26/2011 6:05:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: servantboy777
Is he truly a conservative? Does he still secretly hold affinity toward socialistic policy or does Rick Perry ebb and flow with the political climate to remain in office?

These are all legitimate questions.

Yes, they are and you're just scratching the surface. The problem with Perry is that he will say anything to anyone and cut any deal to get elected. It's all he knows, but of course, that cuts against the grain of the constant propaganda narrative from the Perry spin machine.

101 posted on 12/27/2011 6:42:20 AM PST by TADSLOS (Rick Perry- The Double Dipping il Duce. He'll overhaul congress and make the trains run on time.)
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To: TADSLOS
During one of the debates, the one before the one he couldn't remember his talking points.

Came out against Mitt Romney on the topic of “knowingly hiring illegal aliens”.

The way Perry approached this was unbecoming. He sounded like a child on a school playground.

Romney revealed that yes, he had become aware of illegals on the lawn crew. You gotta be kidding me.

Perry approached this as some sort of bombshell revelation that would expose Romney and his hiring of illegals.

Perry's attempt was to fend off criticism of his In State Tuition rates for children of illegal aliens.

This topic still rubs Texans raw. We have large swaths of Houston (sanctuary city for illegals) that are unrecognizable as an American city.

These illegals have poured into the State of Texas and setup subcultures that look identical to the streets of Laredo or Matamores across the Mexican border.

Perry did the Texas two step in his lethargic support of Arizona's anti-illegal law. He said he supports Arizona, but that this same law is not right for Texas.

HUH? Texans are furious over illegals. We celebrate our Tex-mex culture, but we never intended for illegals to come here and literally setup little Mexico's.

The overwhelming majority of people have never been to the Mexican border. They'll visit nice lil vacation spots like Cancun.

Our border with Mexico is a national security threat and warrants the resources necessary to protect our citizens. Essentially all Perry has done is continually blame the federal government.

Perry may say the border is safer because of HIS actions, but it ain't so. The Texas border area remains largely a lawless area where murder, smuggling, kidnapping, gun/grenade battles are an everyday part of life.

So, instead of blaming the federal government, why not ban sanctuary cities, do away with benefits that are magnets, beef up the boots on the ground on the border.

Hell, it wasn't until Perry began his run for president that a voter ID bill passed in Texas. For a decade, illegals were actually voting in our elections...surprise surprise.

102 posted on 12/27/2011 7:04:25 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Aren’t you in Iowa astroturfing for Ron Paul today?


103 posted on 12/27/2011 7:07:40 AM PST by magritte
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To: servantboy777
Ron Paul has been in Congress forever. I would say the immigration mess is squarely in his lap.
104 posted on 12/27/2011 7:13:21 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Go Perry!


105 posted on 12/27/2011 7:15:42 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.” Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry Wins IPad and IPhone Vote (We CAN take on China and win!)

I had to go through several articles before I found that the Samsung chip facility in Austin has 2400 employees, and added 1100 more for the logic chip that apple uses.

3500 jobs- not too shabby. Texas is open for Business!

106 posted on 12/27/2011 7:37:44 AM PST by sockmonkey (He's not perfect, but Perry is no wussy boy)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Yes, and he should be called out for it.

On his website, he claims a country with no borders is a no country at all.

Voting record:
Data banks for illegal aliens keep track of us too. (Sep 2011)
Pay attention to US borders, not international borders. (Aug 2011)
Let churches provide services for immigrants, not state. (Jun 2011)
Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk. (Apr 2011)
Sending 12M illegals home won’t & shouldn’t happen. (Apr 2011)
If economy were good, there’d be no immigration problem. (Dec 2007)
Amend Constitution to remove aliens’ birthright citizenship. (Dec 2007)
Those who attack bilingualism are jealous & feel inferior. (Dec 2007)
No amnesty, but impractical to round up 12 million illegals. (Sep 2007)
Immigration problem is consequence of welfare state. (Sep 2007)
No amnesty, but border fence isn’t so important. (Jun 2007)
We subsidize illegal immigration, so we get more. (Jun 2007)
Keep rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
End all incentives and amnesty for illegal immigrants. (Jan 2006)
Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004)
Voted YES on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001)
Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998)
Sponsored bill banning student visas from terrorist nations. (Jan 2003)
Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration. (Dec 2003)
Rated 83% by USBC, indicating a sealed-border stance. (Dec 2006)
Government services in English only. (Mar 2008)
Rated C by the ALI, indicating an acceptably anti-amnesty stance. (Nov 2010)
Declare English as the official language of the US. (Feb 2007)

Rick Perry
US-Mexican border security helps the entire hemisphere. (Nov 2011)
We have Texas Rangers patrolling the border. (Sep 2011)
You don’t have a heart if you don’t educate immigrant kids. (Sep 2011)
A 2000-mile fence makes no sense; need boots on the ground. (Sep 2011)
Failed federal responsibility to secure the border. (Sep 2011)
Discounted in-state tuition regardless of immigration status. (Sep 2011)
Let illegals contribute to society & pursue citizenship. (Sep 2011)
El Paso border is not safe until we have boots on the ground. (Sep 2011)
Secure the Mexican border against drug cartels. (Feb 2011)
Illegal immigration cost TX $928M in one year. (Nov 2010)
End the notion of sanctuary cities. (Jan 2009)
$100 million investment in a more secure border. (Feb 2007)
Share costs of legal immigration between states & federal. (Feb 2001)
Federal government should deal with criminal repatriation. (Feb 2001)
Import farm workers from Mexico. (Sep 2001)


107 posted on 12/27/2011 7:46:28 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777
Hell, it wasn't until Perry began his run for president that a voter ID bill passed in Texas. For a decade, illegals were actually voting in our elections...surprise surprise.

Gov. Perry battled for 6 years to get Voter Photo ID passed so he could sign it. Now it's sitting on Eric Holder's desk for approval.

108 posted on 12/27/2011 8:27:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
If Paul wins, Iowa will become finally be recognized as the proverbial “Nut Case” laughing stock of by the rest of America.

There. Fixed it.

109 posted on 12/27/2011 8:30:10 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
28% of Ron Paul voters are admitted democRATS. In Iowa, anyone can register on the same day to vote in the Republican caucus. This means that there are a lot of rat-voters voting for Paul just to create mischief. Many of them have already said that after voting for Paul in the caucus they will vote for Obama in the primary.

Why does the GOP allow these open primaries to go on?

110 posted on 12/27/2011 8:33:01 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I meant to say that many of them have already said that after voting for Paul in the caucus they will vote for Obama in the general election.


111 posted on 12/27/2011 8:34:33 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: servantboy777
Our border with Mexico is a national security threat and warrants the resources necessary to protect our citizens. Essentially all Perry has done is continually blame the federal government. Perry may say the border is safer because of HIS actions, but it ain't so. The Texas border area remains largely a lawless area where murder, smuggling, kidnapping, gun/grenade battles are an everyday part of life.

Gov. Perry has said EXACTLY the opposite. He has said the president is an abject liar about the fact that the border is safer. It is Perry who has been battling for tougher enforcement. It is Texas who has been spending our state tax dollars ($400 Million to date) battling crime. It is Texas that has to deal with ICE not deporting parolee's (that we've had to pay to jail). Perry sends the Feds the bills but of course they're ignored.

In fact the problems keep coming from Federal dictates, regulations, unfunded mandates and inaction.

Did you know?

Still no solution for illegal immigrants' long-term care costs…………..”Still, the real problem isn't hospitals, which transfer most all patients, both U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants, once urgent care is no longer needed and the bed is needed for other patients. It's long-term care facilities, unable to afford to accept patients, like Martinez, who don't have insurance. It remains for hospitals, obligated by federal regulation to arrange post-hospital care for those who need it, to find alternatives and to provide care indefinitely if they can't....

Did you know?

Mexico’s drug war is giving growers a break EL BARRIL, Mexico — The Mexican government is allowing domestic marijuana and opium poppy production to climb to record levels, as soldiers who once cut and burned illegal crops here in the vast Sierra Madre mountains are being redeployed to cities to wage urban warfare against criminal gangs.

Since President Felipe Calderon ordered his troops into the streets in late 2006, the acreage dedicated to marijuana farming has nearly doubled in Mexico, according to technical reports by the U.S. government and the United Nations, data provided by the Mexican military, and interviews with law enforcement agents and growers.

The acreage devoted to opium poppies has also soared, according to the U.S. State Department, making Mexico the second-leading heroin producer in the world, after Afghanistan, whose crop goes mostly to Europe and Asia.......

“Yes, it is a change in strategy, as the army now gives priority to catching criminals and seizing cocaine, which is far more valuable to the cartels” than marijuana or heroin, said Raul Benitez, an expert in drug trafficking and national security at the National Autonomous University of Mexico.

The Mexican government, Benitez said, also cares less about marijuana cultivation these days because the U.S. government appears to care less.”………………..

Did you know?

ICE blamed for Texas parolee law delayThe state has been unable to enforce a new law designed to increase the deportations of illegal immigrants from the Texas prison system amid concerns that federal immigration officials are unprepared to handle the anticipated influx of convicted criminals, state officials said.

Under the new law, which was scheduled to take effect Sept. 1, state prisoners who are granted parole and turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials must either be deported or leave the country voluntarily - or risk being returned to state custody to serve out the remainder of their sentences.

The law was crafted to address a vexing problem identified by the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles, which reported granting parole to some illegal immigrants and turning them over to ICE - only to later learn that they were not removed from the country, said state Rep. Jerry Madden, R-Plano.”………………..

112 posted on 12/27/2011 8:34:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: servantboy777
During one of the debates, the one before the one he couldn't remember his talking points. Came out against Mitt Romney on the topic of “knowingly hiring illegal aliens”. The way Perry approached this was unbecoming. He sounded like a child on a school playground. Romney revealed that yes, he had become aware of illegals on the lawn crew. You gotta be kidding me. Perry approached this as some sort of bombshell revelation that would expose Romney and his hiring of illegals. Perry's attempt was to fend off criticism of his In State Tuition rates for children of illegal aliens. This topic still rubs Texans raw. We have large swaths of Houston (sanctuary city for illegals) that are unrecognizable as an American city. These illegals have poured into the State of Texas and setup subcultures that look identical to the streets of Laredo or Matamores across the Mexican border. Perry did the Texas two step in his lethargic support of Arizona's anti-illegal law. He said he supports Arizona, but that this same law is not right for Texas. HUH? Texans are furious over illegals. We celebrate our Tex-mex culture, but we never intended for illegals to come here and literally setup little Mexico's. The overwhelming majority of people have never been to the Mexican border. They'll visit nice lil vacation spots like Cancun.

Gov. Rick Perry has stated (for years) that the U.S. border with Mexico must be sealed. He has requested assistance (many people on the ground and drones in the air for Intel – he has studied how this is done in Israel). As Governor of Texas, he has been rebuked in person by the current president, who refuses his pleas for the Federal government to do its duty and provide the necessary means by which to seal our country’s international border with Mexico. The governor’s written requests go unheeded.

Texas spends hundreds of millions of dollars of state money to defend its border with Mexico. An elite Texas Ranger unit, put together by Perry, is working to hold the line on our border. Rick Perry has stated that fences do work in urban areas but are not effective, let alone feasible, along the 2000 mile Mexico - U.S. border (1200 miles in Texas alone). The Federal government ignores this problem, while at the same time blaming and punishing border governors when they try to protect their states. People in other states, without understanding the facts, blame border governors when this federally manufactured problem spreads into their states.

President Obama believes security is just fine on the border (better in fact than before he took office) and frankly, he’s following past examples where foreigners are allowed to cross into the U.S., where those with work visas are allowed to slip into U.S. society without any earnest, federal or court action to prevent it, where states are not allowed to ask children their legal status before attending school, where healthcare is accessible to everyone and where federal “social justice” programs have been put into place, thus beginning the progressive process of teaching new generations that it is “normal” to be dependent on government largess. [funded by those “more fortunate” Americans]

Then, periodically, another couple of generations are proclaimed by the federal government to be in the U.S. legally, by magnanimously proclaiming, “You can come out of the dark now and stay.” [sign up here for your Democratic Party voter card]

Rick Perry, as president, wants to finally seal the border and stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs – stop those vile cartels who traffic in human beings and drugs, and secure a dangerous, porous entry used by terrorists seeking to destroy America. The current administration is willfully enabling those who prefer border security remain as it is, those who characteristically (for self interest) want to avoid addressing and dealing with these problems.

Undeniably, Governor Perry is the GOP candidate most familiar with this issue and the problems associated with it. Texas has a long and rich history with Mexico. Mexico is the number one trading partner with America. Many U.S. citizens have Mexican ancestors who are proud Texans and Americans, many who have, are, and are willing to fight for America. Hispanics are the largest minority living in the United States. They have a high birth rate and are a major minority voting demographic. This didn’t happen because Texas shares over 1200 miles of international border with Mexico. The current magnitude of the problem, along with the number of the illegals in Texas and the United States, has everything to do with historic and current Federal inaction.

The Federal government looks to the states and tells them to “deal with it.” So state governments and their citizens have to “deal with” crime and a fast growing, uneducated population that puts a huge strain on state and federal resources. The resulting fall out for state government is, “you’re damned if you do and "you’re damned if you don’t." Gov. Perry and the Texas Legislature have accepted the criticism for taking the “damned if we do” path because they’re “dealing with it” first hand and Texans understand that "we're damned if we don't." These children are here, their potential and future has been put on our watch -- it is a practical and human decision and as Rick Perry said, “You don’t have a heart if you don’t.”

In 2001 the Texas Legislature voted in an Act (signed by Gov. Rick Perry) allowing children brought to the U.S. illegally (basically stateless people) by their parents, who complete 3 years of high school in Texas (graduate and want to attend college) to apply for U.S. citizenship and pay instate tuition. Their “anchor baby” siblings have this right by virtue of the 14th Amendment (that gave citizenship to children of slaves – slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment). If the country wants to abolish “anchor babies,” a majority of states need to vote for a change to the U.S. Constitution. The Texas education program is called the Texas Dream Act. The Texas Dream Act is not the same as the rejected Federal Dream Act proposed by the U.S. Senate because that federal legislation in totality and reality was an immigration bill.

The purpose of the Texas Dream Act is to have successful, educated citizens contributing toward a strong economy -- not unemployed or underemployed school dropouts who place a huge drain on our system [and begin generational poverty in their communities]. As past Federal actions have repeatedly shown Texas, illegal immigrants most likely will be allowed to stay. So the smart thing to do is allow them to pay instate tuition and be contributing citizens versus benefits receiving citizens. Gov. Mitt Romney does not agree with this and in fact rejected this approach in Massachusetts.

The truth found a voice in Rick Perry. Gov. Perry has said and believes that Conservative Ascendancy is how we will bring America back from the brink. Besides getting Americans working again we need to show them the value of conservatism and how those values encourage and support strong families and a free country.

Last night former Gov. Mitt Romney sounded like a “Snidley Whiplash-Simon Legree” character, while Gov. Rick Perry was “Dudley do right” looking after “Little Orphan Annie.” How do you think Barack Obama will (or won't) play these sound bites in his re-election bid for 4 more years?

Mitt Romney wants the status quo, which continues to feed the pipeline of generational, programmed victims -- driving trapped and dependent people into the arms of the growing army of the Democratic “fight for social justice” Party. Rick Perry wants to change the status quo and bring more voters into freedom – businesses owners, entrepreneurs eager to join the Republican Conservative Ascendancy Party – no matter what their last name or color, or gender or faith. And the border must be sealed first in order to do this.

Do the math. Rush Limbaugh has. Rush, like Gov. Perry, wants everyone to succeed (not secede). Rush, like Rick Perry, knows we’re at the crossroads that will decided the future path of the United States (and the world). Will it be Perpetual Dependency or Conservative Ascendancy? Democratic Party leaders are herding us into warring camps hoping to take us on the road to socialism. The states must take back power from the Federal government and get this country back on the road to free market capitalism.

This isn’t a Sound Bite issue.

“Nice try” Mitt.

Source

113 posted on 12/27/2011 8:39:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I posted some about the Paul “voters” in Post #35.


114 posted on 12/27/2011 8:44:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick Santorum, A True Conservative, Vote Rick Santorum for President!

http://www.freewebs.com/globalwatch/ourchoiceforpresident.htm


115 posted on 12/27/2011 8:57:53 AM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: OPS4

I wish Perry or Santorum would jump way up in the polls.I prefer Perry because he will make congress and senate go part time and take pay cuts.


116 posted on 12/27/2011 10:24:24 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: servantboy777

The thing is, it’s not just a border problem in Texas anymore. Perry knows it and so does every other Texan willing to acknowledge the full extent of illegals running amok here. Perry is just sprinkling hispandering sugar for the ants and beating up Obama over the border at the same time. It’s classic Perry duplicity.


117 posted on 12/27/2011 10:28:17 AM PST by TADSLOS (Rick Perry- The Double Dipping il Duce. He'll overhaul congress and make the trains run on time.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
That claim is a bit disingenuous of Perry.
The Congress is a separate branch of government.
They make their own rules, it would require a Constitutional amendment, or a majority in Congress to wake up one day and decide for the good of the Country we will be a part-time legislature. Fat chance of that happening! (Note I am all for the Congress going part-time, etc!) I was disappointed with Perry for stating this and making it one of the center pieces of his campaign. Because he didn't state it well or it shows he misunderstands the separation of legislative & executive (This also doesn't speak well of him!).
118 posted on 12/27/2011 11:00:58 AM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

I thought that as well.Politically speaking it pots congress in the spot light;to do it or be replaced.It can be done and Perry is the one to truly push it.

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/19/perry-in-iowa-make-congress-part-time-pass-laws-and-send-them-home/

Look at the current bill pending (google Cantor inside trading bill) to stop insider trading.One could say that could never happen either and the ball is rolling on it.It is far time these rich cats stop making so much money to do nothing but spend money.


119 posted on 12/27/2011 11:12:02 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Many of these Paul supporters see Paul as the nuclear bomb to throw in the middle of things to try to radically remake the system. They are willing to overlook agree with his fatal foreign policy flaws.
120 posted on 12/27/2011 11:26:07 AM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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