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Could it be the crazy people in Washington???
1 posted on 12/24/2011 9:38:00 AM PST by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Goes without saying, this is going to get much worse.

But in the end we’ll all be saved by nobamacare.


2 posted on 12/24/2011 9:49:39 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: Dallas59

Your Obama voter... I guess suicide qualifies for an EMTALA payment.


3 posted on 12/24/2011 10:01:31 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dallas59
Thank Heavens for Kennedy's Community Mental Health Act of 1963 /s

Confidential to Dr. William Sullivan: welcome to The New Frontier.

4 posted on 12/24/2011 10:02:04 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("At a time like this, we can't afford the luxury of thinking!")
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To: Dallas59

A lot if these people have healthcare coverage or currently would qualify for healthcare coverage under Medicaid because they have little or no income. Welcome to obamacare, ‘healthcare’ coverage w/o access to proper healthcare.


5 posted on 12/24/2011 10:07:57 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: Dallas59
Sullivan said the man kept repeating that he wanted to kill himself. "It seemed almost as if he was interested in being admitted."

Duh. It must be getting cold in Chi-town.

There was an excellent book written in 1973, "Stations of the Lost" by Jacqueline Wiseman that described how the skid row alcoholic (now called "homeless") used the various social agencies as survival mechanisms. It would apply even more so today. They developed a lifestyle of following "the loop" from Skid row to city jail to county jail to county mental hospital to treatment center to shelter and back to the street. Most of them only spent about a third of their time on the street, usually depending on the seasonal weather.

These various agencies designed as means of social control are used as means of survival. If the person is a vet you can throw various VA bennies into the mix.

6 posted on 12/24/2011 10:11:24 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Dallas59

Want to stay in the most expensive hotel in town? Head to the ER and tell them you’re suicidal. Three squares, clean bed, nurses waiting on you...


8 posted on 12/24/2011 10:21:34 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Dallas59

Want to stay in the most expensive hotel in town? Head to the ER and tell them you’re suicidal. Three squares, clean bed, nurses waiting on you...


9 posted on 12/24/2011 10:21:34 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Dallas59

I thought it said “FR” for a second, well close enough.


10 posted on 12/24/2011 10:25:23 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Dallas59

Just a bunch of folks preparing to vote for Paul.


13 posted on 12/24/2011 10:32:16 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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Can’t be. There is a LAW in Mass where EVERYONE has health insurance.


14 posted on 12/24/2011 10:59:05 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Dallas59

I’ve been at the doctor gig since 1973, and I had my psychiatry training at public hospitals in Brooklyn.

All discussions about this subject ignore most of the facts:

1) There are a lot of crazy people, and their numbers are increasing
2) A lot of community organizing-type agitation makes crazy people worse
3) All the state hospitals, which housed millions of crazy people in 1955, are closed
4) There is not enough money on the planet to provide all the crazy people with outpatient treatment.

Start there if you want to discuss solutions.


15 posted on 12/24/2011 11:10:12 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Dallas59

Oops, for a moment I thought the title said “Mentally Ill Flood FR...”


17 posted on 12/24/2011 11:21:51 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Dallas59

Illinois is in need of a tax increase!


19 posted on 12/24/2011 11:54:27 AM PST by depressed in 06 ( Where is the 1984 Apple Super Bowl ad when we need it?)
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To: Dallas59

I think the best all-round solution is for states to build low cost managed care barracks for the non-dangerous mentally ill.

As a good example of such a program whose primary goal is to save the taxpayers money, Seattle set up a hotel for 75 confirmed alcoholics.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002684566_eastlake15m.html

The bottom line is that it saved the taxpayers a huge amount of money, it got the alcoholics out of the gutter and off the street, and drastically reduced police and emergency room costs as well.

The largest group of people who are mentally ill all share the same problem: chronic and incapacitating depression. These are the people who would benefit most from such a barracks.

Oddly enough, the mentally ill who are depressed are rather low maintenance compared to many, and are generally satisfied with minimal needs, such as a bed, shower, food and water, and clean clothing. But it is very hard for them to earn a living or perform extended tasks. Some respond very well to antidepressant treatment, but others do not.

Yet concentrating them would save a lot of money, with a more institutional economy of scale.


26 posted on 12/24/2011 1:06:28 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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