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"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you." Thanks, but no thanks. You've done enough already.
1 posted on 12/24/2011 7:14:45 AM PST by ibytoohi
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My sister has two mules she uses to eat the weeds in her pasture.


2 posted on 12/24/2011 7:19:11 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Obummer- the only U.S. president in history elected to a 4 year campaign.)
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This is all a concerted effort to bankrupt the United States of America ... it’s all planned and so help me, Congress is in on the ‘fix’ ... except maybe the ten or so TEA party Senators and couple dozen TEA party Representatives.

But so help me, I can’t prove a thing, but the Gutless Old Pharts seem to be doing everything they can to undermine 2012 just as they and McCain did to undermine 2008.

I commend Andrew Brietbart for doing his part to expose the guilty of all stripes, party affiliation, and destructive tactics.

Conservatives are just too dern NICE and it’s going to be the destruction of the USofA ... and that’s exactly what the Gramsci-Alinskyites expect.


3 posted on 12/24/2011 7:28:56 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (I am Roman Catholic, US Citizen, Patriot, TEA Party Alumni, Oath Keeper, Voter, Auburn Fan!)
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America has tied itself in a Gordian knot of regulation. There is only one way out.


4 posted on 12/24/2011 7:29:29 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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Mules have been eating weeds for centuries! Must not be too bad because we still have mules.


5 posted on 12/24/2011 7:29:32 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Forced diversity causes dissent!)
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Duh. Everyone knows weed is illegal.


6 posted on 12/24/2011 7:30:52 AM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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From the article:

“In Montana’s Finley Basin there are known tungsten deposits. An Australian company wanted to bring revenue and jobs to the state by developing the resource. While the property was successfully drilled and recognized by Union Carbide in the seventies, it is now about 200 yards inside a roadless study area. The Forest Service was willing to offer a conditional drilling permit. Among the conditions were these requirements:

The drill sites must be cleared using hand tools,
The drilling equipment and fuel must be transported to the site by a team of pack mules,
The mules must be fed certified weed-free hay, and
Drill site and trail reclamation must be done using hand tools.

The company gave up.

How can America remain competitive in a global marketplace when we are required to use pick axes and mules? How does this help America’s heavy equipment manufacturers like Caterpillar?

No wonder we are in trouble.

We need these resources. They are salable both in the US and in a global market. The question is will we produce our assets—creating revenues, jobs, and new wealth? Or, will we allow countries, such as China, to have a monopoly and control the price?”

Leftist lunacy.


8 posted on 12/24/2011 7:34:53 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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This from the article:

In Montana’s Finley Basin there are known tungsten deposits. An Australian company wanted to bring revenue and jobs to the state by developing the resource. While the property was successfully drilled and recognized by Union Carbide in the seventies, it is now about 200 yards inside a roadless study area. The Forest Service was willing to offer a conditional drilling permit. Among the conditions were these requirements:

The drill sites must be cleared using hand tools,

The drilling equipment and fuel must be transported to the site by a team of pack mules,

The mules must be fed certified weed-free hay,

and Drill site and trail reclamation must be done using hand tools.

The company gave up.

This is *almost* unbelievable.

America is hellbent on suicide.

9 posted on 12/24/2011 7:35:54 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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Perhaps they should also of required the miners to wear old fashioned costumes in addition to using mules. Then the liberals out East could come and have their pictures taken with both the miners and the mules... Of course the mules would have to be unionized.
14 posted on 12/24/2011 7:46:44 AM PST by dog breath
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Hildahoof’s personal trainer must have suggested it.


17 posted on 12/24/2011 7:50:02 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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JACKASS


24 posted on 12/24/2011 8:03:15 AM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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The problem is that the seeds of weeds are not broken down as they pass through some animal’s digestive tract. The government is worried about some agressive weed seeds being transported into areas that are free of that certain weed.

The same rules apply to outfitter horses used for transport during hunting season.

I got some manure from a local dairy several years ago and spread it on my garden. I never had a crop of wild amarath (pigweed) come up and am still fighting it today.

My neighbor raised soybeans for years. Then he decided to let grass grow for hay. He got manure to spread on his fields, now those fields are covered with millions of wild onions, which he never had in the past.


25 posted on 12/24/2011 8:04:17 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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27 posted on 12/24/2011 8:11:44 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Who can even grow hay that could be “certified weed free” and afford the cost to continually weed or spray chemicals for weeds? What risk would it be to the grower if a few weeds were found? Crazy world we live in that is being designed to destroy us on many, many levels.


30 posted on 12/24/2011 8:13:23 AM PST by kactus
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Does this mean that all hay must come from big-agri now? FUBO!!!


32 posted on 12/24/2011 8:15:21 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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I believe that freedom entails responsibility. Land uses are assets. Destroy the use, and you've taken the asset. That means that someone who wants access to mine must either leave the property in a condition that remains useful or pay for the restoration or conversion to some other commensurately economic use. Of course, I'm no fan of public property in the first place, but if we are going to have collectivized land, do you as an "owner" really want public assets destroyed for private profit?

In this case, noxious weeds really can destroy the usefulness of the land for subsequent grazing, hunting, or other recreational or economic use. Why should the taxpayer pay to fix the weed problem these guys leave behind?

If you brought an equine to my land (which are notoriously poor at destroying seed as they chew), you'd have fed it purely native feed for weeks, AND cleaned its coat, or you could chase the seeds they drop for over twenty years. Even at that point, I'd still be taking chances that something got through. So, the operator has a choice: Pay a very expensive person to control the problem for decades or prevent the problem in the first place.

I deal with weeds, a lot: full time 5-7 months a year. On our land, I must distinguish 113 species of exotics from 244 species of natives. I must know them by their juvenile attributes, including grasses, which is cutting edge knowledge in management botany I promise you. Hence, weed control on our land requires the knowledge of a college graduate. On parts of my land, effective weed control requires a visit by a highly trained professional EVERY FOUR DAYS during the peak of the growing season. Not a few weeds have seed that can remain viable for decades.

The real technical question here is the requirement to use animals in the first place. Instead of mules one could bring in heavy equipment that the operator had pressure washed first and build a road. When they're done, retire the road you required to my satisfaction. On my land, it's that or no access to mine. Now, that means the mine is either worth the cost, or it's not. Don't go wrecking my place in perpetuity to chase a pittance. I expect a profit for granting access.

The one benefit of this (probably stupid) policy of requiring clean mules is that it makes the land of people who practice good stewardship in raising feed more valuable. It pays them for the extra work they do to control a problem that (in most cases) they had no role in causing. Around here, government is the primary culprit in the continued spread of noxious weeds.

33 posted on 12/24/2011 8:15:54 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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38 posted on 12/24/2011 8:59:55 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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And what Republican candidate is promising “all ahead full” with energy development and mining? Brushing aside vast amounts of federal interference and anti-industrialism lunacy?

Perhaps the best thing would be to return most of the taken state lands back to the states. Federal land grabbing has caused much of the deterioration of American prosperity, and ending it is not enough, it must be reversed.


41 posted on 12/24/2011 9:09:36 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Mules have gotten along just fine without government intervention, which should be involved more in jobs and boosting the economy!


44 posted on 12/24/2011 9:31:53 AM PST by tob2 (Merry Christmas to all!)
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47 posted on 12/24/2011 9:51:54 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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“We just smiled and waved/Sittin’ on that sack of seeds....Y’all come back now y’hear?”


49 posted on 12/24/2011 10:16:46 AM PST by dfwgator
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