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Small 'l' libertarians are somewhere around 10 - 15 percent of the electorate, depending on the source. I wonder how many of the voted for Obama, because if they weren't fed up with his economic policies and Fast and Furious, Obama can kiss them goodbye now!
1 posted on 12/20/2011 6:30:03 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives wants to prohibit patients from protecting themselves.

That can be the only possible explanation.

Because the medical marijuana system of distrubution to "patients" is completely failsafe against any sort of abuse so that only people with a real medical need for the stuff can obtain it. How can the BATFE not see that?


2 posted on 12/20/2011 6:38:01 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: neverdem
Longstanding rule upheld by courts for many years--users of illegal drugs are not entitled to own firearms.

Pot is a federally proscribed drug, so possession and use negates the right to own a firearm. Simple and well known, and predictable to anyone who has ever thought about the realities of sucking pot behind a "prescription."

3 posted on 12/20/2011 6:38:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem

“Rowan Wilson, a Carson City-area woman who works as a medical technician in residential care homes, believes pot might be useful for her painful menstrual cramps”

This is ridiculous. Is she going to go to work stoned every 28 days?


4 posted on 12/20/2011 6:40:27 PM PST by Round 9
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To: neverdem

Did the FDA approve marijuana for any specific medical treatment?

Does anyone have any idea what pharmacuetical companies go through to get a drug approved? After it is approved there are increadible regulations that are strictly enforced during the production process all the way to market.

Any drug produced that was produced in a facility that violated a number of these regulations must be pulled from the market. There are billion dollar lawsuits going on everyday because of missing documents validating processes.

Still, Joe Blow can go and grow. All the community and the doctors know. Write a script, charge a buck, Jow Blow is a wealthy fellow.

How many doctors invest in Joe Blows business I wonder?


5 posted on 12/20/2011 6:42:02 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals draw conclusions on clouds with invisible ink from a unicorn horn dipped in Pixidust!)
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To: neverdem

There was a thread earlier that stated that over 30% of all U.S. Citizens become arrested at some point by the time they reach the age of 21 (It may have been 18). Over 1% of our population is in prison at any given moment, and per capitz, we have more than 5x the prison population of any other nation on the planet. Besides per capita, we have the largest NUMERICAL prison population on the planet.

The police state is in full swing. I by no means endorse drug use, but I’m going to point out that all of this criminalizing of all behavior is the round about way of gun control. Too many apathetic morons or ignorant touchy feely types thought it was a brilliant idea to hop on the “felons-have-no-rights” bandwagon. Unfortunately they failed to see that it was merely the “first they came for the felons, but I was not a felon” strategy. The average American commits THREE Federal felonies, PER DAY, completely unaware. A felony used to mean that the most heinous of crimes was committed, now it’s merely a money making racket. Everyone who is an adult is an unprosecuted felon, everyone.

Until everyone fights so that EVERYONE gets ALL of their God given rights, including felons not currently incarcerated/serving a sentence, no one will have them. They’ll continue to be erroded, mark my words.

(P.S. I’m not a felon, before anyone asks)


6 posted on 12/20/2011 6:42:33 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: neverdem
Rowan Wilson, a Carson City-area woman who works as a medical technician in residential care homes, believes pot might be useful for her painful menstrual cramps

I"m sure. I believe Pot might be useful to relieve my depression when the Browns lose another close game. Happens about as regularly as Rowan's menstrual cramps. If this bimbo can get high when she's pms-ing why can't I get high because I'm in a bad mood?

7 posted on 12/20/2011 6:43:52 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem
I've seen the inside of a medicinal marijuana clinic where they were playing Peter Tosh music through a PA system, along with Winston Rodney and Burning Spear.

The medicinal devices sold for inhalation of the medicine were decorated with evil laughing clowns wearing jester hats and Oakland Raiders memorabilia. For straight bustin' ya wig up, yo.

Last time before that I ever went into a clinic, it was years earlier for physical therapy after a hospital stay and the place smelled like disinfecting alcohol and had 10 month old 'Highlights' and 'People' magazines in the lobby.

Boy, clinics sure have changed!

8 posted on 12/20/2011 6:45:19 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: neverdem

Should they be able to drive and operate heavy machinery while “taking pot” too?

I forget, where do my rights start?


10 posted on 12/20/2011 6:46:52 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals draw conclusions on clouds with invisible ink from a unicorn horn dipped in Pixidust!)
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To: neverdem; hinckley buzzard

Sounds like a great reason to end the whole “medical marijuana” falacy. Two problems solved.


17 posted on 12/20/2011 7:01:27 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: neverdem

Hmmm, so people actually trying to follow the rules—instead of ignoring them—get screwed. Great way to build respect for the law!

Does this rule apply to any prescription drugs? After all, I’m sure that if I asked I would be told that this is a “safety” issue. And many prescription drugs impair their user in some way.

Not that I trust the word of the FDA any more than I do any other federal agency—on any subject. Supporters of RTKBA would be wise to approach this kind of rule with caution; anti-gun nutjobs are not above using federal agencies for their own agenda (look at what they’ve done with CDC in the past).


27 posted on 12/20/2011 7:14:32 PM PST by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: neverdem
guess he never heard of Midol

midol or .357, Midol or .357, MIDOL or .357!!! chose...

30 posted on 12/20/2011 7:21:31 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem

What other drugs would this apply to? Xanax, Prozac, Ritalin? Any of a hundred other mood altering drugs?


42 posted on 12/20/2011 7:59:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: neverdem
Small "l" libertarians, none of whom voted for Obama, think this BATFE regulation is stupid and unconstitutional.

In fact, all of them that I know think those who support such interpretation of the law are their mortal enemies.

49 posted on 12/20/2011 8:50:21 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: neverdem
I don't see how any libertarian could have voted for 0bama, or any Democrat, for that matter.

0bama and Democrats in general are far too socialist and Tyrannical, this being apparent long before the 2008 election occurred.

Any so-called libertarian who would vote for such a blatant authoritarian collectivist is no libertarian at all...

52 posted on 12/20/2011 9:27:39 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: neverdem

Shouting at your spouse can get your 2A rights wiped out.

Same if you ever get any psychological counseling. They’re using that one with a lot of ex-military.


53 posted on 12/20/2011 9:29:43 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: neverdem

I hate stoners. I hater more the batf.


56 posted on 12/20/2011 9:35:05 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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81 posted on 12/21/2011 7:31:42 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: neverdem
I wonder how many of the voted for Obama, because if they weren't fed up with his economic policies and Fast and Furious, Obama can kiss them goodbye now!

There's no way in hell a rational, sane, small (l) libertarian could vote for Obama. From the very first time Obama's name hit the national consciousness, anyone with half a brain in his skull could peg him as a statist, and statism flies in the face of small (l) libertarianism.

83 posted on 12/22/2011 5:50:41 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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