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Get a Medical Marijuana Card, Lose Your Second Amendment Rights
Reason ^ | December 16, 2011 | Brian Doherty

Posted on 12/20/2011 6:30:01 PM PST by neverdem

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To: hitkicker

Regarding the prescription drugs, there are a great many prescription drugs that are doled out every day to Americans that are Schedule 2 or Schedule 3 controlled substances regulated by the DEA. Some of these, like narcotic painkillers, will effect you in almost exactly the same way as Schedule 1 substances like heroin or morphine, that are in the same category as marijuana. A lot of prescription drugs are definitely addictive and widely abused. Even widely used non-narcotic psychiatric drugs like Ritalin are on the schedules, addictive, and can have similar effects to drugs such as methamphetamine. So, your fears about them using this as a backdoor method of gun control sound pretty reasonable to me.

Also, besides this drug restriction, there is the long-standing restriction placed on people with psychiatric problems. Right now, I think you have to have been institutionalized or something for these restrictions to kick in, but is it crazy to think that the government will try to widen that restriction too? Am I paranoid for thinking that the boom in handing out prescription antidepressants to a swathe of the population is a really convenient event for people who would like to ban guns for people who had been just treated for mental issues or prescribed psychiatric medication?


41 posted on 12/20/2011 7:54:25 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: neverdem

What other drugs would this apply to? Xanax, Prozac, Ritalin? Any of a hundred other mood altering drugs?


42 posted on 12/20/2011 7:59:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: OneWingedShark

It is the recipe for tyranny. When anyone can be charged with a crime everyone has to live in fear. All the police have to do is randomly pick folks up. The smart ones will plead out quickly just to be on to whatever is next.


43 posted on 12/20/2011 8:05:22 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Ergo, everyone should be denied the right to keep and bear arms.

Given your screen name, what about fins? And teeth?

Cheers!

44 posted on 12/20/2011 8:22:04 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention.

But those aren't the ones I'd bet most users are after...

45 posted on 12/20/2011 8:24:02 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Boogieman

“The sheer number and volume of laws is ridiculous, and you’re spot on about their purpose as a path to the police state, whether it was intentional or not. Lawmakers get paid to make laws, they get publicity for their re-election when they pass laws, and they get more croney jobs to hand out to their buddies with every law they have to enforce. So, it doesn’t even take a conspriratioral mindset to conclude that politicians will just keep making laws until everyone is a criminal if nobody stops them, and I think we’re already pass that point....”

ARBEITSZIEHUNGSLAGER


46 posted on 12/20/2011 8:31:24 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: The KG9 Kid

And it’s much cheaper than a trip to Jamaica.


47 posted on 12/20/2011 8:35:40 PM PST by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: Tenacious 1

I think that’s the way the Nazi’s did it.


48 posted on 12/20/2011 8:37:34 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: neverdem
Small "l" libertarians, none of whom voted for Obama, think this BATFE regulation is stupid and unconstitutional.

In fact, all of them that I know think those who support such interpretation of the law are their mortal enemies.

49 posted on 12/20/2011 8:50:21 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: presidio9
Two appeals court justices, both friends of Scalia, cited his opinion in the Raich case to uphold Obamacare. Your drug war is paving the way:

Both Silberman and Sutton cited Scalia's opinion in 2005 upholding strict federal regulation of marijuana in the case of Angel Raich, a Californian who used home-grown marijuana to relieve her pain. "If Congress could regulate Angel Raich when she grew marijuana on her property for self-consumption," Sutton wrote, "it is difficult to say Congress may not regulate the 50 million Americans who self-finance their medical care."

http://mobile.latimes.com/p.p?a=rp&m=b&postId=1165037

50 posted on 12/20/2011 9:14:48 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
You must not be a fan of the Tenth Amendment.
51 posted on 12/20/2011 9:17:42 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: neverdem
I don't see how any libertarian could have voted for 0bama, or any Democrat, for that matter.

0bama and Democrats in general are far too socialist and Tyrannical, this being apparent long before the 2008 election occurred.

Any so-called libertarian who would vote for such a blatant authoritarian collectivist is no libertarian at all...

52 posted on 12/20/2011 9:27:39 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: neverdem

Shouting at your spouse can get your 2A rights wiped out.

Same if you ever get any psychological counseling. They’re using that one with a lot of ex-military.


53 posted on 12/20/2011 9:29:43 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: JDW11235

Our state once had a chief medical examiner who simply made shit up to ensure convictions. His paid testimony sent hundreds to prison and many convictions were overturned years later when it was found that he didn’t have a college degree and had not even performed the tests that he used to convict people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Zain
http://truthinjustice.org/expertslie.htm
http://www.corpus-delicti.com/zain_082194.html


54 posted on 12/20/2011 9:31:03 PM PST by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: OneWingedShark

These bureaucrats just nailed some company for putting on their water bottle that it prevents dehydration (making it a drug).

Of course they want to get everyone and everything on ridiculous technicalities. They let the real abusers free. They may actually be sticking up for them. You little peons though, no, they will clampy down on you and crush you with every technicality they can find.


55 posted on 12/20/2011 9:32:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: neverdem

I hate stoners. I hater more the batf.


56 posted on 12/20/2011 9:35:05 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Ken H

Somehow I just know that Antonin Scalia will figure out a way to justifiably rule against Obamacare. Don’t you worry about it.


57 posted on 12/20/2011 10:02:59 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Round 9

You’re worried about that, when about 40 percent of everyone driving around you is high on some type of concocted big pharma drugs.

A big percentage of people over 65 are strung out on pharmaceutical pain killers, medications etc, with many ingesting multiple pain killers and medications as a matter of routine. It’s what made big pharma worth hundreds of billions.


58 posted on 12/20/2011 10:20:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: presidio9
Don't bet your lunch money on it.

...the authority to enact laws necessary and proper for the regulation of interstate commerce is not limited to laws governing intrastate activities that substantially affect interstate commerce. Where necessary to make a regulation of interstate commerce effective, Congress may regulate even those intrastate activities that do not themselves substantially affect interstate commerce.

J. Scalia concurring in Raich

59 posted on 12/20/2011 10:23:02 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Shouting at your spouse can get your 2A rights wiped out.

BINGO!

She don't even have to show them a bruise...Just a slight red mark will do....And they'll throw you in a cage, and strip your rights away...You're done!

Total 100 percent control.

Go big gov!

60 posted on 12/20/2011 10:24:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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