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We've all known on FR for a very long time that the liberal activist judiciary is a large part of the problem. What the liberals can't get done legislatively, they simply get the activist courts to do for them. Roe vs Wade for example.

I give credit to Gingrich for recognizing that they must be reined in. The dunderhead Romney sure as hell won't. He blames the judges in Massachusetts for gay marriage on his watch but refuses to lift a finger to oppose them.

1 posted on 12/19/2011 9:54:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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Someone sometime has to rein in the Black-Robed Priests.

And it looks like Newt is the only one with the guts to do it.


2 posted on 12/19/2011 9:58:03 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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I really wish we were talking about massive tax reform instead.


3 posted on 12/19/2011 9:58:12 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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The real enemy is OBAMA, & no more circular firing squads.

5 posted on 12/19/2011 10:05:54 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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Constitution’s there for a reason. Call me a traitor, but I think the first obligation of the president is to uphold the constitution.

I think Newt’s plan is the worst thing that could happen. Better to do nothing than to tear down what has been built.

The constitutional way is to appoint justices who will uphold the constitution in their rulings. If the republicans had done that instead of nominating Souter and O’Connor, it would be a much different picture today.


7 posted on 12/19/2011 10:09:58 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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I agree: better to have the courts disempowered and fight things out in legislatures.


9 posted on 12/19/2011 10:12:32 PM PST by DNA.2012
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Conservatives split?My arse.Just remember, people who are liars/lawyers are liars/lawyers first and foremost and they stick with their own regardless of conservative or liberal.No lawyer likes to hear anyone say anything about taking a chunk out of the judiciary which is their bread and butter.Talk about an old boy network.
10 posted on 12/19/2011 10:12:52 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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Former Pennsylvania Rep. Bob Walker, a Gingrich supporter, says the proposals are spot on.

Bob Walker, a name from the past whom I always liked admired! Very happy to learn he is supporting Newt Gingrich!

We know that Gingrich is right and that his detractors aren't presenting his position on the Courts accurately. After all, most of them are lawyers....lol.

Read and learn: www.newt.org/ = PDF FILE

13 posted on 12/19/2011 10:16:19 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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...suggesting Sunday that he'd even approve of arresting them if they refused to show up.

The president wouldn't have much say about it if Congress issued an arrest warrant for contempt for failure to appear for a Congressional subpoena. The president could approve in one hand and disapprove in the other and see which one filled up first.

Regime change in the courts. Impeach activist judges!

14 posted on 12/19/2011 10:17:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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Congress can dissolve any court it chooses at any time save the SCOTUS. The President has no such power. Gingrich should have acted when he was Speaker.


15 posted on 12/19/2011 10:19:47 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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Well, the news tonight about the Tea Party vote - with 23,000 on a conference call - voted for Newt - 30%, Bachmann 28% and Romney 20%...would seem to refute FOX’s claim.

So it doesn’t sound like these people - a conservative block - are worried about Newt’s stance on the courts. Unlike BOR and others, conservatives know very well what the courts have become - another arm of government for the Socialists.

How many times, in state after state, have people voted in issues the opposite way in which the Socialists wanted, so they send it to one of their courts and the peoples votes are tossed out?


17 posted on 12/19/2011 10:22:52 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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IMHO, the judiciary has taken away the power that the Founding Father intended for the AMERICAN PEOPLE have.

The Founding Fathers gave us the Bill of Rights to protect us from the government. What did we do? We went to the government and asked THE GOVERNMENT to tell US the meaning of each one of those amendments. WE should be telling them, including the judiciary, what each amendment means. Those rights belong to us.

25 posted on 12/19/2011 10:30:43 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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Newt can and will ride this horse to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue! GO NEWT! Git’er done!


27 posted on 12/19/2011 10:36:43 PM PST by matthew fuller (Hey Buckwheat- What the Hell are we paying you for?...(GO LEROY!))
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All federal courts are the construct of Congress. In fact the makeup of the US Supreme Court is a construct of the federal legislature.

Article III

Sec. 1

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.
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". . .vested in one supreme Court . . . . as the Congress may . . . establish."

The Newt is asking for a mandate to reign in the courts from legislating from the bench. When he's elected he will have the mandate.

Sounds like a strong Conservative principle.

yitbos

29 posted on 12/19/2011 10:38:29 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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"...Gingrich says he'll ignore Supreme Court decisions if they don't square with his interpretation of the Constitution or what he believes the country's founders intended."

When did he say these exact words?

34 posted on 12/19/2011 10:51:54 PM PST by moehoward
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nOOt is right.. and the lawyers HATE IT... they just hate it..
Next you know.... Newt would be advocating serious Tort Reform..

OH! thats right he already did.. they simple HATE that too..
He must be trying to STAMPEDE the lawyers.. the bovine milkers that they are..


37 posted on 12/19/2011 10:59:25 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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Roger Pilon, vice president of legal affairs for the CATO Institute, says Gingrich is challenging the very system established at our nation's origins.

Horse manure.
This guy is with the CATO Institute? Yikes.

The US Constitution offers a fairly sparse job description for the Supreme Court, especially compared to the other two branches. Most of the "power" the Supreme Court now has it took for itself along the way. Shame on those who let it happen, who let the courts embed themselves at the top of the government food chain to the point where, for example, a single scumbag in black can overrule millions of referendum or ballot initiative voters.

Gingrich simply wants to (finally!) bring the judiciary back to the coequal branch of government status it was supposed to have from the beginning. I'm pretty sure the framers never intended for the judiciary to legislate from the bench or govern by fiat.

Bravo for Newt. And to hell with the CATO Institute if they can't do better than Roger Pilon. Apparently even a layman like me knows more about the Constitution than he does.

38 posted on 12/19/2011 11:04:57 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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"If you're going to attack it, you're really attacking the (Constitution's) framers," he said

No matter how right Newt is on this issue, this could turn around and be his jump the shark moment. The libs could really make enough of an issue to cast a dark pall over the conservative party in general.
Yes many of their decisions are not very good, but most are relatively well thought out and correct. Right now Newt needs to get the libs and the cons to pay attention to defeating Obama! Then who ever gets in will most likely have the chance to appoint 2 and maybe 3 justices in his first term. The reverse is that Obama will be able to appoint those justices to the court if he is reelected. Changing the composition, duties, and powers of the separate branches of our government is much harder to do. Talking right now is just dumb.

Only a dictator can do that on a whim. Now I am sure Newt himself is not calling for dictatorial powers to be assigned to the president, so why even raise the issue now? Concentrate on Obama and defeating Obama! Constitutional changes can be proposed when our person gets in. Also, if our guy appoints the justices that he will get to during his term we will be able to get very ahead of the liberals.

For now Newt and all our potential candidates need to pay attention to defeating obama. We all need to pay attention to getting our guy in to PROTECT SCOTUS from putting two or three more liberal justices on the court. That is something that we can easily run on. Preventing Obama from stacking the deck against the average citizen in the short term

Focus folks, and Newt should not be playing in these suppositions until he has a presidential pulpit to muse from. Besides, if the electorate is the least reflection of the me members on FR, talking too much about SCOTUS may confuse them or put them to sleep.

Proposing working in the powers of a dictatorial president is way too far off track to win them over. Worse it may give the dems too much ammo to go after our candidates in the public and in the press.

Think about it, even if any of the other candidates is put on the spot about Newts statement do they defend themselves by showing the liberals just how they disagree with Newt? Then does Newt come back later and make an issue of how wrong they are? Friction needlessly started now about issues NO presidential candidate can affect in the sh0rt term anyway.

The dems are probably salivating with all the potential to take Newt and the others off message of defeating Obama and fracturing our party with it. As Clinton's advisors used to say... it's the economy stupid.

Our folks need to stay on that, as well as all the other failings of Obama too.
45 posted on 12/19/2011 11:50:58 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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Here's a quicker solution. The feds are trying to thin the herds of ponies on the eastern shore of MD/VA.

Why not use the persuasion technique from a famous movie ("make them an offer they can't refuse") to bring these marxist judges back to the jobs originally intended by the framers...

Two problems solved...

46 posted on 12/20/2011 12:01:14 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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One Constitutional issue is not in dispute.

All spending bills originate in Congress.

Judges could be selectively de-funded.

Their salaries and their staffs could be eliminated.

Their chambers and courtrooms could be closed or leased out to new tenants.

47 posted on 12/20/2011 12:03:35 AM PST by zeestephen
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IMHO...

America should be sticking to the Constitution, enforcing the law, using legal means to fix problems and taking care to not retreat from or even ignore activist judges but not overstepping the Constitution either.

Anti-American groups are aggressive so the response must be aggressive.

I am no fan of Congressional hearings because they are nothing more than populist grandstanding and the hallmark of the establishment at this point. The populace is so used to hearing crime and immorality of fantastic proportions that the most heinous revelations in a hearing are but a headline for a day or two. The absurdity of fast & furious is a recent example of this; it’s just beyond any semblance of legitimate government in the audacity of both the operation and the Executive branch’s response.

The Executive branch certainly does have tools in it’s toolbox to control the out-of-control judiciary that a moral, law-abiding administration could use to imbue those same traits in the Judicial branch from which they have receded.

The ranks of judges need to be cleaned up constantly using impeachment and every legal means possible.

To arrest judges simply for not showing up and testifying before a Congressional committee, IMHO, sets a precedent that could eventually be used for anarchy. If a judge is indicted for a crime, then of course arrest procedures should be followed as prescribed by law, but I don’t favor making a C-Span circus out of grilling judges.

We need to remember that the reverse can happen if a leftist President and Congress are elected; they could use the very same tactics to remove judges that are not activist enough for their tastes.

That’s why I think Federal judicial housecleaning should be continued on an ongoing basis in a methodical manner that does not overstep the Constitution and is truthfully justified and documented and done very transparently and according to law.

The real root of problems is groups that are very powerful and anti-American, have significant financial backing and have their influential fingers all throughout both parties; the mainstream big-money interests are happy to sell out moral principles and American citizens and put their support behind anti-American elements, to wit, the 2008 election.

We also need a simultaneous ongoing societal shift in America, a grassroots shift towards morality, to support fixes made to the government.


49 posted on 12/20/2011 12:19:48 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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