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Posted on 12/19/2011 1:39:44 AM PST by neverdem
An old adage reads, "If it quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck." The push by the Obama Administration to progressively strip Americans of basic liberties in the pursuit of political objectives has now taken on more draconian overtones, and no one seems to have noticed.
While the media quibbles over Romney versus Gingrich, the Occupy movement, and other diversions, President Obama continues to undermine law and order, dismantling the US Constitution piece by piece. When public officials seek to limit freedom, it can be concluded that these officials want to rule instead of govern. Cloaking seizures of power in clever misnomers does not validate the abuse of public office. What else can we conclude when Obama claims the illegal power to assassinate citizens at his whim? If citizen assassination were the only example of executive malfeasance emanating from Washington, Americans could breathe easier, except that citizen assassination, e.g. Awlaki, has opened the floodgates for a barrage of new power seizures. The ground softened, the first brick laid, Obama can now proceed unchallenged.
As I warned repeatedly in multiple articles over the last two years, the machinery put in place to thwart Islamic terrorism could be turned against citizens for political purposes, due to the broad constructions used in terror definitions. Only no one could have imagined the speed at which these things would come to pass:
The broad and ambiguous language found in the PATRIOT Act gives the president, whoever that may be, the power to determine what is and is not "terror." Section 411, G, vi, II of the PARIOT Act defines a terrorist as anyone "designated, upon publication in the Federal Register, by the Secretary of State in consultation with or upon the request of the Attorney General."Everything that follows is contingent...
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
The problem, nathan, is that these are not mutually exclusive premises. It is not either/or, it is both.
Israel hits Iran...Iran retaliates with whatever it can, as do other mid-east countries all around israel, accepting Jordan. MAssive conventional warfare...does the US help Israel at this point? We should, but under Obama, do we?
Pakistan enters the fray...potentially using a few of its nukes against Israel, which uses its defenses to thwart most of them, but one may get through. What then for Israel?
India attack Pakistan and the two go through their exchanges. India would probably come out on top...but at great cost.
Does China enter in at this stage? Certainly possible. Does Russia make a grab? Also possible.
If either do, it will be hard for the US not to get involved nuclearly, at least tactically at first.
As Travis says, the genie will be out of the bottle.
Do the Oath Keepers consider Obama to be a legitimate and Constitutionally legal commander-in-chief?
Folks we have a WINNER.
The more vile they become, the more power they'll need to keep the rest of us in line. The midnight knock on the door, arrest without constitutional protection and indeterminate detentions without civil recourse will be cornerstones of control - as in all totalitarian cultures.
This feeds on itself.
The incentive is to ever higher brutality. You're right, LearsFool. This is what happened in Germany ... The German evil ones used 'economic stuff' to hang their thuggery on.. Our evil ones are using 'fear of terror' to hang their evil on. Of course the 'terror' their protecting us from is primarily the 'terror' of their political opponents.. - in short "us". We're the new Jews.
I just hope my prize doesn't just turn out to be an all expenses paid permanent vacation at an undisclosed Caribbean location... /g
Not sure why this isn’t one of the only topics we are discussing.
One has to wonder if the REAL "manchurian candidate" in the last election wasn't McCain?
I have already accepted the fact that EVERYONE on this site is on a LIST and I am sure some preparations have been made to round us all up. I hear Cuba has nice weather this time of year?
The problem about the List -— many Freepers are anonymous to other Freepers. There could be a lot of progress on the List roundup before it becomes apparent.
"Always assume that a law will be interpreted by your worst enemy." Lyndon B. Johnson
Gee Whiz, you sound just like my wife ;o)
The easy case is the killing of Al Awlaki. Much is made of his "American citizenship." Yet his "citizenship" comes courtesy of the Supreme Court's distortion of the 14th Amendment, creating birthright citizenship. He was born on American soil, but of parents who were not citizens. His citizenship was in name only. He had no loyalty to nor attachment to the United States. In no sense was he an "American."
Regardless of citizenship, he was a self-declared enemy of the United States, who had taken action to further than enmity. There was no way he could be brought to trial. Killing him was the only option, to keep him from further harming the US.
And that's the problem. His was an easy case. Unfortunately, it opens the door to cases that aren't so easy. Where is the "bright line?" Where is the "stopping point" at which we decide, no, this case doesn't permit execution without trial, simply on the order of the President? We don't have any bright line, nor any stopping point. Once we decide Al Awlaki can be killed at the decision of the President, with no other review or judicial intervention, there is no stopping point. Anyone can be targeted.
I'm afraid that with the passage of the NDAA, the government has in effect declared war on the American people. It's going to be messy before it's over.
If you recall Congress had a secret meeting in March that scared he’ll out of them just before the implosion in Oct. Of 2008. Have there been more secret meetings?
At some point Laz there will be a feather that will break the back and then there will be dead politicians and bureaucrats piled in the thousands from coast to coast. I personally will take great pleasure in adding to those piles.
God, I hope you are wrong.
>>>I feel more comfortable wearing the tinfoil hat that says that there is something afoot rather than the tinfoil hat that says there is a giant conspiracy prompting all of these legislators to sellout the country.<<<
Agreed. My fear is that people of influence who are uninformed, partially educated, and motivated by feelings of sweetness and light are being swept up by the chewed-up leftist platitudes that pass for common sense in this era. They really do want to make the world a better place, and they are enthralled by the purity and goodness of their intentions.
I’ve seen this during my years in the print media, and now as a teacher in a high school - I’ve worked with fine people whom you would trust with your house while on vacation, yet their ideological slant reflects what they feel to be polite and enlightened. So it is that couples married monogamously for decades cheerfully support sex education and gay marriage that undermines their own chosen lifestyle, caring teachers casually shunt kids into ethnic and racial pigeonholes out of concern for education, and the sons of legal migrants argue on behalf of those who break immigration law.
That’s the horror. They mean well. They hide their hubris from themselves. Eventually, when the edifice falls apart, history tells me that confused people often seek the strong man. God help us.
The Patriot Act was the first bill officially of the RinoCrat UniParty...and is their basis for extension f their power. just MHO...of course.
Welcome to the United Soviet States of America..where the Pravda State Media “vet” the candidates to the pleasure and needs of the RinoCrat UniParty.
This “election” will be a non-election...featuring the state approved “candidates”-whose only distinction is whether they are black or white.
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