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To: FreeReign
No. I'm giving you the specific facts of the case. You're citing opinions

The facts are quite clear. Newt admitted his guilt and the overwelming majorities of the ethics committee and the House voted to reprimand him and fine him $300,000. It was a totally non-partisan decision. He accepted the reprimand and paid the fine. Those are not opinions. Gingrich is the first and only sitting Speaker of the House to be given a reprimand.

I never said he was convicted of the tax charges. Those charges were not part of the reprimand decision. He was later exhonorated of those charges by the IRS.

76 totals charges were filed against Newt. In the end all they got was one charge of false information, information that Newt repeatedly told the truth about, and then mistakenly answered the opposite one single time. Do you understand what that means??

LOL. In understand what a 7-1 vote in the Ethics committee and a 395-28 vote in the House means in terms of Newt's guilt, which he admitted to. He paid the $300,000 fine. 196 Reps voted for the reprimand and 28 against. How is this a partisan witch hunt? J. Randolph Evans, Gingrich’s attorney, said his client "has apologized to the subcommittee, to the House and to the American people."

You can believe in anything you want about the legitimacy of the charges against Gingrich, but the facts are the facts. Do you understand what that means?

392 posted on 12/18/2011 9:51:07 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
LOL. In understand what a 7-1 vote in the Ethics committee and a 395-28 vote in the House means in terms of Newt's guilt, which he admitted to. He paid the $300,000 fine. 196 Reps voted for the reprimand and 28 against. How is this a partisan witch hunt? J. Randolph Evans, Gingrich’s attorney, said his client "has apologized to the subcommittee, to the House and to the American people." You can believe in anything you want about the legitimacy of the charges against Gingrich, but the facts are the facts. Do you understand what that means?

Ethics panel votes and House votes are of course opinions, in this case about an ethic charge. They are not facts about the ethics charge. I specifically gave you the facts surrounding the one ethics charge they pinned on Newt and the one ethics charge he finally broke down and agreed to.

You ignore those facts and instead give me vote counts and fine totals. So what is the point of further discussion?

BTW, in the interest of accuracy, Newt never admitted to doing anything illegal or unethical. Your comment above implies otherwise, and you are wrong. Go and read his direct statement after they found him guilty of the one charge.

Or you can continue to believe what you want.

BTW, 85 ethics charges and investigations over four years that lead nowhere is a witch hunt. It's absurd to think such futility isn't. How embarrassing for you to think those were legitimate investigations that weren't grounded in the politics of that time.

You appear to have forgotten the endless propaganda fight the Democrats and the left waged against Newt. And you appear to have forgotten how the House Republicans cut and ran for the own political lives, instead of supporting what was right.

I haven't.

394 posted on 12/18/2011 10:41:41 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: kabar
Here's an article from '99 giving an account of what happened.

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395 posted on 12/18/2011 10:51:25 PM PST by FreeReign
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