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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 18 December 2011
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 18 December 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 12/18/2011 5:17:58 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



December 18th, 2011

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann; House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio; Gov. Nikki Haley, R-S.C.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Reps. Barney Frank, D-Mass., and Paul Ryan, R-Wis.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Jon Huntsman; Sens. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., and Robert Menendez, D-N.J.


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KEYWORDS: guests; lineup; sunday; talkshows; wallace4romney
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To: Son House
Can no one explain the ‘payroll tax cut’ de-funds Social Security, which is already pilfered and broke?

Of course it does, but now the issue has been framed that it will TAKE $1000 from each worker.

Once given, very difficult to take away. Much like giving an employee Sunday off and trying to put the same employee back to work on Sunday.

221 posted on 12/18/2011 8:29:53 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: dirtboy
Juan just went right on with his attempt to blame the GOP for the payroll tax cut not getting extended

IT is the "Contribution to Social Security Trust Fund" cut not being extended. Until Zero started calling it a "payroll tax", FICA was always known as "Contribution to Social Security Trust Fund".
222 posted on 12/18/2011 8:31:10 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Rational Thought

It isn’t so much the Rinos taking over or owning the Party, it is the professional campaign managers who run the Party. I am in a special election and you would be amazed how controlling and stupid they are.

They go by a formula and will not very in the slightest for fear of making a mistake. They would rather lose than take a chance of trying something different. This has been an education and eye opener. We are having a civil war behind the scenes.

Merry Christmas


223 posted on 12/18/2011 8:31:11 AM PST by bray (The Tea Party Occupy's their Mind)
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To: Kenny
Sadly, a good many Perry supporters (at least on this forum) joined Politico in their accusations against Cain. I knew we were in trouble when other “conservatives” joined in with a Left-Wing rag like Politico in trashing one of our candidates. Did the Perry supporters not realize far worse would happen tot heir guy should he rise in the polls?

BTW, I was huge Cain supporter, but lost all respect for the man when decided to quit. It was a gutless, stupid move on his part.

224 posted on 12/18/2011 8:31:25 AM PST by Artcore
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To: altura

I dig cynicism but you’re way over the top.

Newt will not cede to Mitt, nor will Perry.

That’s ridiculous. Mitt will have to win on his own and conservatives don’t like Mitt. He does have the party backing mostly because he wouldn’t change things and they don’t like change. It scares them.

But the party is not the people. Cheer up.


No cynicism, just the facts, altura.

People want to believe in Democracy and that there is a democratic process that will result in the outcome of such a thing as the “making of the Republican nominee.”

But Romney will be the nominee and not really ever get more than 30 percent of the contested vote.

It’s just a scam. I vote in May. It’ll be long over by then. And by then your guy Perry will have kissed Mitt’s ring or else consigned himself to Oblivion.

When you think about the “Republican primary season,” imagine a smoke-filled room. Honestly.


225 posted on 12/18/2011 8:32:45 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: bray

Yep, even the Democrats have a choice, although this guy is the only one that seems plausible if they have that ‘tantrum’;
Darcy G. Richardson
http://www.darcy2012.com/

Wikinews interviews Darcy Richardson, Democratic Party presidential challenger to Barack Obama
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_interviews_Darcy_Richardson,_Democratic_Party_presidential_challenger_to_Barack_Obama

If you had been elected president in 2008, what would you have done differently than Barack Obama?

Darcy Richardson: The fact that President Obama initially appointed Larry Summers as chairman of his White House Economic Council shortly after taking office, should have given everybody pause. Summers is probably more responsible for the country’s current economic mess than any other individual.

As President Clinton’s Secretary of the Treasury from 1999 to January 2001, Summers shaped and pushed the financial deregulation that unleashed the near-collapse of Wall Street in the autumn of 2008, particularly when he pushed through the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 during the final years of the Clinton Administration — legislation, as you know, that had prohibited banks from doing both commercial and investment banking.

An architect-turned-enabler of this never-ending economic crisis, Summers later supported the Commodity Futures Modernization Act that, unbelievably as it might seem, mandated that financial derivatives — including the reckless credit default swaps at the heart of the financial crisis — could be traded between financial institutions without any government oversight whatsoever.

It’s little wonder that Rolling Stone writer William Greider, in a marvelously detailed article in late 2008, pointed out that Obama’s choice of Summers and other key economic advisers, including Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, seemed designed to sustain the failed economic policies of the Bush presidency — an administration that never saw the financial crisis coming in the first place.

The Summers appointment told me that the President had no earthly clue how this devastating financial crisis happened or how to reverse it.

Things only got worse after that. President Obama failed to resurrect the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. He failed to include a public option in health care. He failed to assert his constitutional responsibility during the recent debt limit crisis. Unbelievably, he’s failed to protect Social Security and Medicare. He extended the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. He failed to push for cap-and-trade. And he failed to close Gitmo. I could go on, but I think you get the point. If anybody deserves a serious intraparty challenge, it’s the current occupant of the White House.

In retrospect, it’s really incredible that a Democrat of national stature and credibility hasn’t entered this race — at least as of now.

Do you believe Obama has done any good things as president?

Richardson: Nothing I could write a book about, unless it’s a work of fiction. He’s generally been disappointing, allowing the GOP to frame the debate on issue after issue. Who in their right mind wants the Republicans to dictate fiscal or economic policy in this country? The folks in the Occupy Wall Street movement have already figured that out. It’s just a matter of the rest of the country coming to the same conclusion...

What necessary freedoms are currently lacking in American society?

Richardson: Since the beginning of the Bush Administration, most of our personal freedoms have been under constant attack — including freedom of assembly, as many in the Occupy movement can sadly testify.
Do you disagree with any parts of the current U.S. Constitution?

Richardson: Not really, but I’m not particularly crazy about the second amendment.

What are some of your policy proposals, and if elected, how would you implement these?

Richardson: First and foremost, I’m advocating a capital levy on wealth, not unlike the proposal currently being debated in Germany and other European countries. Much of our current $15 trillion national debt should be recouped from the rich — the pampered and privileged class that hasn’t paid its fair share in recent years.

Though I’m still developing my platform, I also support a second stimulus package — roughly five or six times the size of Obama’s meager $447 billion “Son of Stimulus” — to jump-start the U.S. economy; a Medicare-for-All health care plan; and a moratorium on home foreclosures (for primary residences only), not unlike that initiated by Minnesota’s radical Farmer-Labor Party during the Great Depression. I also want an immediate end to the war in Afghanistan and am strongly opposed to the Keystone XL pipeline.


226 posted on 12/18/2011 8:34:52 AM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: altura

Sadly, some are going to have a little pity party and stay home during the general if their candidate doesn’t win the primary. That’ll show ‘em!

If Obama wins another four years...we’re finished as a country.


227 posted on 12/18/2011 8:34:55 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Rational Thought

The lack of Repub leadership is appalling .... here’s what you get when you’re weak and don’t stand on principle from the get-go: “House GOP revolts on payroll deal”:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70592.html


228 posted on 12/18/2011 8:35:39 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You can't fix stupid but you can vote it out.)
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To: onyx

Hi fishtalk!

Yes, I read about her endorsement of Romney too. Rush is right! Anyone and everyone whoever hopes to run for GOP elected office has to endorse Romney if they hope to get Rove’s and RNC help. Christine has lost the TEA Party forever.

“No good deed goes unpunished.”

Merry CHRISTmas!!


onyx, Christine O’Donnell just did what everyone is going to do only sooner rather than later. She wants a future in the Republican party. They will all cave in. It’s why our girl Sarah did not run—I’m convinced. She knew Romney was gonna get it as soon as Huck bowed out—if not sooner.

It’s a rigged game.


229 posted on 12/18/2011 8:37:01 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Artcore

Maybe a few, but most of us did not go on Cain threads.

But, not to start a fight, a ton of Cain supporters would descend on every Perry thread like locusts and make outrageous statements.

Once that happens, there’s a little payback usually. But most of us did not do that.


230 posted on 12/18/2011 8:37:18 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Artcore

Could not agree with you more. !!!


231 posted on 12/18/2011 8:38:04 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: maica
Why won't one Republican mention the fact that GWB wanted to place the same 2% of FICA collection into voluntary private funds for younger wage earners

Good point! The percent on the ‘payroll tax cut’ has to be much larger!
232 posted on 12/18/2011 8:38:41 AM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: altura
but what, really is the point of Bachmann and Huntsman staying in? Or Santorum?

Could it be that Bachmann and Santorum are the ONLY real true conservatives?
233 posted on 12/18/2011 8:39:21 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: PaleoBob

That will only happen if we play along. We need to unify behind one person and support him to defeat Romney/Country Club.

Weigh what every candidate has said and dismiss what the pundiots or attack ads have told you and decide who that candidate is.

There are 5 times as many of us as there are Mitt supporters, we simply have to choose 1. He may not be your favorite, but the most Conservative who can beat Mitt.

I have chosen Newt who isn’t even in my three favorites, but this choice has to be made to beat the Country Club.

Merry Christmas


234 posted on 12/18/2011 8:39:40 AM PST by bray (The Tea Party Occupy's their Mind)
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To: PaleoBob

Okay, you need to go sip on some eggnog or a bloody mary.

Cheer up, Merry Christmas.


235 posted on 12/18/2011 8:40:20 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: wintertime

The powers that be want Romney as a candidate because he is completely beatable. Why all this silence in the mainstream Marxist media about his religion?
My prediction:

The minute Romney becomes a candidate, **then** the Marxist mainstream press will dig up every nutty thing every said by any Mormon “prophet”. Romney will be smeared non-stop as a racist for having been a member of this church ( and holding responsible leadership positions in it) at time when blacks could not hold their “priesthood”. His polygamous ancestors will be resurected.

Then...one week before the election a few disaffected former Mormons will swear that they witnessed baby sacrifice in the Mormon temples. Four months later retractions will be printed in part E on page 57 of the Sunday editions.

Bet on it!


While it’s all true, the lamers in the lamestream media will play all these cards against Romney, it won’t matter. Romney won’t get close to beating Obama because he has no real base of voters from which to generate enthusiasm—like McCain, Dole, Ford... He’s politically DOA. If the lamers wanna claim some credit they’ll do the attacks and such but it’s really not necessary.


236 posted on 12/18/2011 8:40:24 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Son House
...who was Newt influencing and on what? I believe it had to do with the Freddie Mac consulting.

Maybe Newt and his people got more of an inside view of the whole operation at Freddie Mac (and possibly Fannie Mae as well) than has been mentioned so far.....

The media pimps just keep spiking any mention of Newt & FM, the libs (as well as RINO-oblique-stroke-Elite) most studiously ignore it and it just makes my suspicious ol' gourd tingle all over when somebody hands a bunch like that a sharp stick to poke at Newt with and they treat it like roadkill.

Could it be that Newt's got some stuff back in the lockbox that would make life interesting for some folks?

........just going to add that to my list of Things That Make Me Go HMMMMMMMM.

237 posted on 12/18/2011 8:40:52 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet ((398 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: Artcore

Yeah, I wondered if there wasn’t more out there that Cain worried about. Very sad though when he dropped out.


238 posted on 12/18/2011 8:41:31 AM PST by Kenny
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I just switched over from the “debate” on This Week to Reliable Sources where they’re trashing Christiane A’msopoor. Hilarious.


239 posted on 12/18/2011 8:41:46 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: bray

I am on board with Newt Gingrich and hope he makes it all the way because I think he’s the best equppied in knowledge and solutions to take down the Marxist, but if not Gingrich, then I am willing to go to Perry, but that’s it.

I can’t see any of the others making the grade. Perry would need a whole lot of prayers, but I pray a lot regardless.

Perry has already been labeled “dumb” by the media including SNL, which isn’t true, but he’s not quick on his feet and that’s worrisome. Now, were he debating Biden and not obama, we’d be home free.

If the GOP-E smears and hit pieces by his rivals manage to take Gingrich out, I’ll go to Perry, provided Perry stays above the nasty hit pieces against his rivals.


240 posted on 12/18/2011 8:42:05 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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