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To: cothrige
No I do not. However you seen to forget that in 1979 Carter was kissing up to the Ayatollah like there was no tomorrow. In fact the US state department had cut the Shah's legs out for under him in one of the stupidest moves ever made which allowed the "Revolution" (brought to you by the USSR) to succeed.

And no it really had nothing to do with the "Islamic Revolution" which was sponsored by the USSR. So sorry but you attempt to excuse the Iranian barbarity is noted and dismissed as the nonsense that it is.

And sure you excuse the Iranian lunatics of today, yesterday and everyday. After all they call the USA the Great Satan and Israel the Little Satan so they are to be loved, cosseted, made excuses for and defended.

It is really interesting how someone who "loves" their country never does anything but cut it down and side with it's enemies.

15 posted on 12/16/2011 6:00:08 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
And no it really had nothing to do with the "Islamic Revolution" which was sponsored by the USSR. So sorry but you attempt to excuse the Iranian barbarity is noted and dismissed as the nonsense that it is.

Sorry, but you seem rather confused. I don't recall having "excused" anything. I merely followed through on what you stated regarding history starting today. I agree, it didn't start today. But, neither did it start in 1979. Conveniently forgetting the facts of wrong-headed international shenanigans is not productive. There seems to be an idea going around that American foreign policy is infallible, and never gives way to boneheaded moves. Oddly, this is often followed up with charges that Obama is going to get us killed with his foreign policy. (I dare you to figure that one out.)

And sure you excuse the Iranian lunatics of today, yesterday and everyday.

Again, who is excusing them? I don't excuse any of them, but neither do I excuse the morons who chose to overthrow their government and earn their barbaric hatred for the following several generations. Why do people insist that we can take a crap on people and still expect them to like us? If that were true then why is everybody here so pissed off at Obama, again, for his idiotic rudeness to the British people regarding the bust of Churchill? Naturally we believe this upsets our friends across the pond, as I think they say over there, but then we think we can actually perpetrate coups in Islamic countries and they will just love us. How silly.

After all they call the USA the Great Satan and Israel the Little Satan so they are to be loved, cosseted, made excuses for and defended.

But, you see, that is my point. If we had not done as we did in the 50s they would likely have not called us that. Sure, they would probably not love us, but then neither do Canadians. Last I checked, however, there isn't a Death to America Day in Toronto.

It is really interesting how someone who "loves" their country never does anything but cut it down and side with it's enemies.

So, your position is that admitting stupid moves sixty years ago which have led to constant fighting and discord is "siding with our enemies"? I can't imagine what passes for conservative these days. At one point in time responsibility for an error was a conservative virtue. If we did something wrong it was considered proper to admit it and learn from it. Now, apparently, we are to simply pretend we have been perfect throughout history and cannot possibly make mistakes. Sounds like a great plan for success, and it is perfectly crafted on the model of the liberal Left.

19 posted on 12/16/2011 7:39:36 PM PST by cothrige
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