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Finally: Fast and Furious Comes up as GOP Debate Topic
Townhall ^ | 12/15/2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 12/16/2011 1:32:25 PM PST by neverdem

After months of debate from GOP presidential candidates on topics ranging from Gardasil vaccinations to nuclear Iran, the topic of Operation Fast and Furious was finally mentioned during the Fox News Sioux City, Iowa debate Thursday night and met with roaring applause from the audience. Considering December 15, 2011 is the one-year-anniversary of the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, who was killed by an illegal Mexican drug cartel member in the Arizona desert using a gun provided through the Obama Justice Department, the timing was fitting. Fox News host Megyn Kelly asked the question about Fast and Furious without mentioning Brian Terry, didn't give background on the operation and framed it in a way that benefited Eric Holder. She asked Rick Santorum and Rick Perry if republicans were politicizing the scandal by calling for his resignation. Rick Perry has joined with 57 House Republicans in calls for Holder to resign immediately.

It would  have been helpful for viewers to understand the Obama Justice Department deliberately allowed 2000 guns to be placed in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. The fatal result of this program? Two U.S. federal agents are dead, more than 300 Mexican citizens have been slaughtered. Even Eric Holder admits more people will be killed as a result of the operation for years to come. Questions to GOP candidates about whether criminal charges should be pressed against DOJ officials for their role in Fast and Furious and how they would repair the U.S. relationship with Mexico over the issue would have been more productive in moving the Fast and Furious conversation forward.

Both Santorum and Perry said if Holder was their attorney general, he would be fired for his role in Fast and Furious, whether he knew about gun walking techniques or for being incompetent for not knowing about them.

Although the discussion surrounding Fast and Furious tonight was brief, under 60 seconds, I'm glad the topic finally came up as it has been ignored for months by the mainstream media and been falsely classified as a "botched" operation. Fox News' Bret Baier credited Twitter for pushing the topic into the debate. Hashtags used to promote the topic were #fastandfurious and #murdergate.

Katie Pavlich

Katie Pavlich the News Editor at Townhall.com. Follow her on Twitter @katiepavlich.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; fastandfurious; gunrunner; gunwalker; murdergate
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To: GlockThe Vote

Wow! I found more:

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site525/2011/1126/20111126_081147_Sinaloa%20document.pdf

My guess (last line of page 1 of the document above) is that the weapon they were after (30 of them) was the FGM-143 Javelin —that’s my guess.

They’re talking about being bored of AK’s and .50’s, of wanting to blow up buildings, so they might have been after the thermobaric version (which is available).

That’s just a guess, however.


21 posted on 12/16/2011 4:35:22 PM PST by gaijin
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To: little jeremiah
I like the part “met with roaring applause by the audience”.

Me too - favorite part...

22 posted on 12/16/2011 4:47:29 PM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: gaijin

I will sptry to send this to Issa. Believe it or not - he responds directly to things on his Facebook page. I posted on one of his threads, and he emailed me twice.


23 posted on 12/16/2011 8:09:25 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: neverdem

Question:

Wasn’t “Fast and Furious” intended to form a basis for gun control legislation that would undermine the 2nd Amendment?

If so, is that not in itself a subversion of the Constitution?

Just asking.


24 posted on 12/17/2011 5:25:57 AM PST by ripley
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To: ripley

*Fast & Furious* was designed, it seems, to prop up the Sinaloa Cartel, to whom all the guns went. Their arrangement was to arm them, to attack Los Zetas, who were thought to be planning a para-military style attack on the Mexican Gov’t.. The US Gov’t. has already dropped serious indictments re. massive drug-smuggling against top members of the Sinaloa. Two of them. Now, one arrested Sinaloa operative says he had an agreement with the us Gov’t., to leave him & his Cartel alone, in return for secret information on all the other Cartels. Also, to allow large drug shipments into the USA.


25 posted on 12/17/2011 4:56:52 PM PST by constable3
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To: constable3

Thanks for the reply.

So, was the effort aimed at curtailing drug shipments into the U.S. or a Progressive, adolescent attempt at undermining the 2nd Amendment.

Thanks again for the reply.


26 posted on 12/17/2011 8:51:21 PM PST by ripley
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To: neverdem

Thanks for all that you do for us and others. Wishing you all the best in the NEW YEAR!


27 posted on 12/18/2011 1:17:06 AM PST by des
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