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The New US Poverty Numbers: Yes, Still Wrong
Forbes ^ | November 9, 2011 | Tim Worstall, Contributor

Posted on 12/16/2011 10:47:32 AM PST by 1rudeboy

Census has released their new Supplemental Poverty Measure and I’m afraid that people are still getting the points about US poverty wrong. The SPM does indeed cure some of the problems with the old measures which I discussed here. But it introduces a new and quite glaring error at the same time.

This is what leads such as Felix Salmon into the quite erroneous gambit of directly comparing the two methods of poverty measurement and the number of people who are poor in the US.

Just to recap the argument about the old method (which is still the official method by the way, as it’s embedded in so many laws that to change it would be a terrible rewrite of many of those extant laws).

The standard method used in the US measured, by and large, those people who were in poverty before we helped people in poverty. We didn’t include those things which we do to alleviate poverty, things like the EITC, food stamps, housing vouchers. OK, this new method does include all of these things and is now a measure of who is poor after we’ve helped them rather than a measure of who would be poor if we didn’t help them.

However, there’s a new measurement that is being made. The crux of it is this:

Poverty threshold

Old system: Three times the cost of minimum food diet in 1963
New system: The 33rd percentile of expenditures on food, clothing, shelter,
and utilities (FCSU) of consumer units with exactly two children
multiplied by 1.2


(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: depopulation; economy; foreignrule; globalism

1 posted on 12/16/2011 10:47:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama

ping


2 posted on 12/16/2011 10:48:37 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jpsb

You, too.


3 posted on 12/16/2011 10:50:54 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Which is why I never understood why everyone wants to raise minimum wage. Every time minimum wage is raised, the price of bread and everything else rises, too so you're back at square one again. But it's not square one but many squares to the negative side when you consider those hard earned dollars you've managed to scrape into savings just lost their value.
4 posted on 12/16/2011 10:57:40 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: 1rudeboy
"Poverty" seems to be defined pretty generously in this country.

For example, I'm an E6 in the Navy with more than 8 years of service. My wife is a stay at home mother to our two young sons. We live in a decent 3 br. / 2 ba. single family home with a two-car garage and a large yard. I can afford payments on a 2009 Toyota minivan. We have a couple of nice HDTVs, PS3s, computers, cell phones, cable, internet and on and on. I have an electric guitar collection worth thousands of dollars. My wife and sons never go without. There's plenty of food in the fridge, clothes in the closet and toys in the bedrooms. Our credit card debt is minimal and I have no problem making the monthly payments. We have thousands in our savings account.

Yet, my family qualifies for WIC as well as subsidized utility bills. I'm sure there's other "freebies" we'd qualify for if I looked into it. We choose not to receive WIC and I pay my electric bill in full but we qualify nonetheless. In the eyes of the government, this places my family in the one out of two Americans who are poor.

I certainly don't feel poor but apparently we are. Go figure...

5 posted on 12/16/2011 11:00:19 AM PST by Drew68
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To: 1rudeboy

OK, now everybody hold their breath as we wait eagerly for the MSM to air endless stories about the increase in the poor and homeless under this administration. You do remember them doing this in the previous GOP Administrations, right?

It is well known amongst NY Times readers and their alphabet network cohorts that only GOP Administrations are so heartless as to ignore increasing poverty and hunger.

Breathlessly waiting ... [crickets]


6 posted on 12/16/2011 1:06:40 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existance!)
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To: 1rudeboy

There will always be a bottom 10%, even if we make everyone fabulosuly wealthy.

*which, compared to olden times- we have*


7 posted on 12/16/2011 6:07:53 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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