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Could Another Great Debate Save Newt? Nope.
Townhall ^ | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 12/15/2011 1:10:20 PM PST by Windy City Conservative

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To: Windy City Conservative

Another insider who wants to dictate to the voters who should be nominated.....like we can’t make up our own minds? No way will they leave it to us......it’s one thing getting the treatment from Dems and liberals, but from our own? They think we know nothing. Forget ‘em.


41 posted on 12/15/2011 4:57:41 PM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: Hoodat

I understand your response. My intent was to state that Hugh and Michael are both off the Conservative reservation more than I can stand.

They both uncork some comments that result in me reaching for the dial.

If I conveyed another inference, I did so in error.

I agree with your suggestion that we need new fresh young blood.


42 posted on 12/15/2011 11:33:45 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: Hoodat

Went back and read my comments you responded to.

While I do not think Romney is as bad as Obama, I do think he’s quite bad. That’s why I mixed the names and asked that question.

I’ll be honest, I don’t think Romney is as bad as McCain either. None the less, he’s bad.

We can do better, and I’m not convinced either Medvid or Hewitt grasp that.


43 posted on 12/15/2011 11:37:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: Windy City Conservative

There is but one media personality. The rest are tedious.


44 posted on 12/15/2011 11:40:26 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I’ll be honest, I don’t think Romney is as bad as McCain either. None the less, he’s bad.

That is a sentiment that has attracted much derision on this forum, but it is a sentiment that I share. I got flamed pretty bad four years ago for my opposition to McCain. And I am beginning to sense a repeat with McNewt.

Regarding Hewitt, he seems to live in his own little world. He does conduct great interviews and maintains the highest degree of professionalism while giving them. But I have never known him to be a stalwart of conservatism. As for Medved, his support of McCain was surprising to me. Here's a guy who was pro-Vietnam War back in his high school days living in California. Yet he was downright militant in his defense of candidate McCain.

One thing is for sure, US Senators make lousy Presidents. And yet out of the current field, I find myself supporting Rick Santorum because of all the candidates, his view most closely match mine. Oh well, I am sure I will change my mind before Super Tuesday. But I won't be changing my mind about Newt or Mitt.

45 posted on 12/16/2011 5:36:50 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat
I’ll be honest, I don’t think Romney is as bad as McCain either. None the less, he’s bad.

That is a sentiment that has attracted much derision on this forum, but it is a sentiment that I share. I got flamed pretty bad four years ago for my opposition to McCain. And I am beginning to sense a repeat with McNewt.  There are times when I bow out on certain topics on this fourm.  When McCain was chosen as the standard bearer, it was pointless to continue to trash him.  We were headed for a train wreak at that point, no matter what.  Dwelling on it was pointless.  All we could do is stand back and watch the calamity unravel.

Regarding Hewitt, he seems to live in his own little world. He does conduct great interviews and maintains the highest degree of professionalism while giving them.  I don't disagree with that.

But I have never known him to be a stalwart of conservatism.  I agree with this too.  That being the case, it drives me away.  I know other people who don't know better listen to him, and come away with some blurred vision due to his lack of clarity.  Knowing this, it really grates away at me to listen to his show.

As for Medved, his support of McCain was surprising to me. Here's a guy who was pro-Vietnam War back in his high school days living in California. Yet he was downright militant in his defense of candidate McCain.  All I know is that I can't grasp the support for McCain.

As Conservatives we come to this forum and discuss various topics and principles that define who we are, and to a certain extent, what Conservatism is.  Where are you going to go, to refine your understanding of Conservatism better than you can here?  If your goal is to review public policy and develop the best possible model for it, so that you can support what is right, this is the place.

Then along comes an election, and we toss it all out the window to support folks who disagree on what we know to be right, across the board.

I have never seen a man more vile, more disgusting, more insulting to my ideals, claim to be a Republican and want to represent me.  John McCain.  If there were nothing more than his relationship with Soros, Terressa Heinz Kerry, and the Tides Foundation, it would be enough to convince me this man was an untouchable politically.

And yet, more folks than I care to admit, were able to stuff their principles to try to put him in office.

One thing is for sure, US Senators make lousy Presidents. And yet out of the current field, I find myself supporting Rick Santorum because of all the candidates, his view most closely match mine. Oh well, I am sure I will change my mind before Super Tuesday. But I won't be changing my mind about Newt or Mitt.

My problem with Santorum, is not his problem per se.  I just don't know all that much about him.  He has never peaked my interest.  He's a rather subdued individual, and that hasn't caused me to see him as leaderhip material.  When I think of a leader, there are certain things that I want to see.  One is a strong projecting personality.  Our allies need to see him that way.  More importantly our enemies, need to be presented with a person that they 'fear' will kick their ass if they don't conduct themselves with caution.  Rick lacks there IMO.  Is that a total deal breaker?  No.

If the guy is sound on principle, he is deserving of support.  As I lean more about him, I can see myself falling in behind him.  At least knowing what I do of him at this point in time, I think that is likely.

I've been pretty hard on Gingrich, because I've seen him waffle to the point of irrelevence.

Mitt has his own set of problems and has disqualified himself for my support.

My criticism of Newt has contributed to a situation that may see him deminshed as Mitt is enhanced.  That is not my goal.  Seeing Newt peak here, has caused me to address frankly who he is.  We do not want this man.  It's a shame in light of his positives, but his negative more than destroy his positives.

Ideally, we have got to have someone who gets Conservatism, and isn't afraid to champion it on the national stage.  Then there is the mandatory, the realization that they will implement it as best they can when they get elected.

Amnesty?  Really?  Adios sucker...





46 posted on 12/16/2011 9:57:37 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: Sudetenland

bttt


47 posted on 12/16/2011 4:34:20 PM PST by petercooper (2012 - Purge more RINO's.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
“Could Another Great Debate Save Newt? Nope.”

He must not have heard the one last night. Newts answer that included the Keystone Pipeline and the Straights of Hormuz; was great.
Best part of the whole debate in my opinion. It summarized in a few sentences, the absurdity of the what is going on with the current President.

48 posted on 12/16/2011 4:38:40 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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