Posted on 12/09/2011 2:44:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Newt Gingrich, the senior Republican statesman and conservative dynamo slams the media, slams ObamaCare, slams Obama. Says all Republican presidential candidates are committed as a team to defeat Obama, repeal ObamaCare!!
Worth watching again when doubters try to convince you that Newt is for the personal mandate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DdrMBSI5Xk
Stop scare tactics about drilling in Alaska. (Dec 2006)
Gas tax sounds OK in DC, but not outside Beltway. (Jul 1998)
Cap-and-trade has no impact on global temperatures. (Jul 2010)
Explore proven energy reserves & keep energy prices low. (Jul 2010)
2008 book: Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. (Dec 2007)
Ongoing battle against liberals nationalizing healthcare. (Jul 1998)
Market dynamics can save healthcare, not government control. (Sep 2003)
Market competition yields more health choice at lower prices. (Dec 2006)
If you mandate healthcare, you mandate everything in life. (Jun 2011)
Even if I agreed with that, some of the things Gingrich has done out of office have been horrible for conservatism and the country.
For example, opposing George Bush's 2005 effort to more strongly regulate Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, all the while taking millions in taxpayer money as a consultant to Freddie Mac. According to former Freddie Mac officials, Gingrich was hired:
to build bridges to Capitol Hill Republicans and develop an argument on behalf of the company’s public-private structure that would resonate with conservatives seeking to dismantle it.
If Gingrich concluded that the company’s business model was at risk and that the housing market was a “bubble,” as he said during the debate, he didn’t share those concerns with Richard Syron, Freddie Mac’s chief executive officer at the time, a person familiar with the company’s internal discussions said.
Remember this video? THAT was who Gingrich was aligning with.
That was not the act of a person with good conservative instincts.
His stripes didn’t change, my opinion of him changed when I got curious, went back and took a closer look at his record.
He really has been a pro-life Reagan conservative all along. Plus, big bonus, he’s always been huge on history and the founding fathers and the founding principles of America and that our unalienable rights are a gift from God, our Creator!
It’s true that some conservatives and tea party folks will go with Romney, but I believe the vast majority of them will be very attracted to Gingrich as the movement self-identifies with the founding fathers.
Maybe you have a better excuse for their stone faces and stone hands in their ridiculously stony stand to a rousing defence of them and an arrow into the media. Call ‘em like I see them.
Again, I’m concentrating here on what he actually accomplished while in government. He’s going to have to defend himself for any nutty moves he made since. I see that he has apologized for the couch thing and said that it was the dumbest thing he’s ever done. Hope so. As far as regulating fannie/freddie I don’t know. He’s a Reagan like deregulator, but can’t say that was on his mind. Preferable to regulating them, I personally think they should be abolished.
The misrepresentation about Newt's health care ideas on this forum is disturbing. He has never supported "single payer". He has said people should be responsible for their own health care. That is a conservative principle. Do you want to pay for freeloader's health care?
The health care mandate in ObamaCare is unconstitutional, and would open a Pandora's box if not struck down. Newt knows that and has said ObamaCare must go. But in the end, we are left with what to do with freeloaders who milk the system. Newt says those people should pay their own way. Is that not conservative? Does another candidate have a solution, or even acknowledge the problem? I would love to hear it.
Newt proposes patient centered, free market solutions to health care. Listen to the Cain Gingrich debate where he goes into detail. Cain nodded his head and agreed with everything Gingrich said, then asked him to be his vice president.
Gingrich on Obama’s healthcare law: ‘About 300 pages are pretty good’
"Now there are about 300 pages that are pretty good, a little over 10 percent, but they should be part of the replace document," Gingrich said.
I want a President who will get the federal government out of the health care business. Newt Gingrich clearly will not be that President.
Cain asked to be Gringrich’s VP? Really?
Hmmmm. Goes hand and foot in the mouth of Hannity today. I was listening to Schnit earlier - 1270 AM - too.
That notwithstanding, I watched a couple of movies lately; I’m not going to be watching TV much while the set is on anymore. That’s all I can say.
Right. I watched Richard Gere’s performance in Primal Scream. Then I had the misfortune of watching Malcome McDowel’s performance in The Caller.
C’mon. I can’t tell what hell is goin’ on anymore’s these days. That was BAD. There I was watching a movie thinking I’m happy-go-lucky and the author / director pull out the last pin holding me up: and I fall into a cesspool of pit-vipers or vertical skewers (take your pick which be better).
I was throwing things around at the end of both those movies. I’m certain things’ll worse off for my psyche if Obummber wins again.
OK, have another beer. I’m going to.
PART 1: LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS - Newt.org
REPLACE
As I carry the banner in fighting for the repeal of Obamacare, I will advocate for specific replacement health policies that will create a free market framework for healthcare, provide affordable, portable, and reliable healthcare coverage, and establish a healthcare safety net focused on those in need. This system will assure healthcare for all with no individual mandate or employer mandate of any kind.
snip
Instead of an individual mandate penalty for not buying government approved health insurance, the federal tax code should be reformed to provide every American the choice of a generous tax credit or the ability to deduct the value of their health insurance up to a certain amount. The federal tax code should provide the same tax relief for the individual buying his own insurance as the employer providing health insurance to its employees.
This will lower costs for individuals and families, and will make it easier for people to obtain portable insurance they can take with them from job to job. If you don’t like your employer’s insurance, you get the same tax relief if you buy the insurance of your choice. Employers should also be allowed to buy individually-owned insurance for their employees, instead of non-portable, group insurance.
This approach provides a foundation of equal fairness for all, rather than the favoritism and rank discrimination of the Obamacare bureaucracies and the current system.
He'll also deflate the puffed up media like he used to do.
And Rinos should think twice about back stabbing him because he has in the past and will again, repay them in kind if he gets power.
The socialists are going to be sorry they came out of that closet and aligned themselves with Marxists, calling for an end to free markets. Lindsay Graham helped organize Newt's downfall as speaker of the house... Hee hee
I hope Republican voters begin to wake up and smell the coffee here. The ONLY thing that is fueling McNewt's poll numbers is fear of Romney. Once people arise to the fact that Romney has zero chance of winning the GOP nomination, maybe then we can go about the business of nominating an actual conservative.
Whatever.
So do I. I don’t see any authorization whatsoever in the constitution for the feds to be involved in healthcare. Or retirement “insurance” either, for that matter. I would rather see both medicare and social security phased out and privatized.
Was shocked to hear Ron Paul admit in the debates last week that you can’t just yank these programs away from people who have depended on them for decades. Thought he’d be more in favor of getting the government out of the healthcare business asap.
Have glanced at and skimmed over Newt’s proposal. Hope it’s more in line with privatizing, incentivizing and phasing the government out where we possibly can. I know he’s committed to repeal ObamaCare. I just wish they’d replace it with... nothing. Turn it back over to the states and the people per the constitution.
Forgot the link to Newt’s healthcare proposal:
http://www.newt.org/solutions/healthcare
(haven’t read it all yet)
Newt once suggested that students who are ready should move from tenth grade right into college courses or career training. He expressed the opinion that too many students are stagnant for years while doing their time in public schools. He said middle schools are in a holding pattern and many students are ready in middle school to fininsh the material offered in high schools.
I found that assessment to be perfectly true years later when my own sons went through these ages. Both were actually harmed or stunted in the “holding pattern” of doing their time in the public system. The leftist social and political herd manipulation time students spend in schools these days is terribly destructive to behavior and the learning of personal responsibility.
He also touched on virtual schools guided by mentors being available to replace factory designed classroom schools which I think is a great idea. Students should not be the property of adults with their own interests that have nothing to do for the benefit of students.
“What are you talking about”
Well those are some fine accomplishments for sure, Newt is a master of political ascendancy, he has many years experience being the consummate politician.
There are a great many good leaders, but not many great leaders. Newt is a good leader in so far as getting things done, he does so with an astonishing ability to compromise, not what we need at this time. In my estimation we had a proven great leader, up and coming on strong, but for whatever reason she chose not to enter the race, so we will have to settle, and as Newt said anyone now in the race would be better than Obama. I do suspect that if Newt were to fall out of the race (the possibility is there) he will put his support behind Romney, why, because Romney is also an intellectual, with strong ability to compromise, and the accomplishments to prove it.
I do know this, if one wants a whole bunch of people to drink a lot of kool-aid, it’s going to need a decent amount of sugar, the stuff is really nasty without it, Newts sweetener is finely sprinkled with some very decent accomplishments, good words and fair speeches.
I do not know the man personally, what I know about him I learned here on FR, and observing him over the years. It could be the following is all lies,or partly lies, or totally out of context, and I am being deceived, I do believe a solid conservative should be first and foremost a practiced skeptic, and so I practice. As I stated in the previous post, my assessement of Newt is my opinion based on information derived from many posts on FR, not just the following, which were used because of the consolidated format. BTW Newt was my favorite candidate for the 2008 election, did not know quite so much about him then, only that he was an impressive speaker and said the right things.
The following posts from Free Republic is submitted as preponderence of evidence, for consideration:
Some of Newt’s Progressive Dossier:
04/02/1987 – He cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine
10/22/1991 – He voted for an amendment that would create a National Police Corps.
03/–/1993 – He Voted for sending $1.6 Billion in foreign aid to Russia.
11/19/1993 – He voted for the NAFTA Implementation Act.
11/27/1994 – He supported the GATT Treaty subjecting US Sovereignty to the WTO
08/27/1995 – He suggests that drug smuggling should carry a death sentence.
04/25/1996 – Voted for the single largest increase on Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion)
04/10/1995 – He supported Federal tax dollars being spent on abortions.
06/01/1996 – He helped a Democrat switch parties in an attempt to defeat Ron Paul in the 1996 election.
09/25/1996 – Introduced H.R. 4170, demanded life-sentence or execution for someone bringing 2 ounces of marijuana across the border.
01/22/1997 – Congress gave him a record-setting $300,000 fine for ethical wrongdoing.
11/29/2006 – He said that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight terrorism. Wants to stop terrorists from using the internet. Called for a “serious debate about the 1st Amendment.”
11/29/2006 – He called for a “Geneva Convention for terrorists” so it would be clear who the Constitution need not apply to.
02/15/2007 – He supported Bush’s proposal for mandatory carbon caps.
09/28/2008 – Says if he were in office, he would have reluctantly voted for the $700B TARP bailout.
10/01/2008 – Says in an article that TARP was a “workout, not a bailout.”
12/08/2008 – He was paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac to halt Congress from bringing necessary reform.
03/31/2009 – Says we should have Singapore-style drug tests for Americans.
07/30/2010 – Says that Iraq was just step one in defeating the “Axis of Evil”.
08/03/2010 – Advocates attacks on Iran & North Korea.
08/16/2010 – Opposes property rights of the mosque owner in NYC.
11/15/2010 – He defended Romneycare
12/05/2010 – He said that a website owner should be considered an enemy combatant, hunted down and executed, for publishing leaked government memos.
01/30/2011 – He lobbied for ethanol subsidies.
01/30/2011 – He suggested that flex-fuel vehicles be mandated for Americans.
02/13/2011 – He criticized Obama for sending less U.S. taxdollars to Egypt.
02/15/2011 – His book said that he believes man-made climate-change and advocated creating “a new endowment for conservation and the environment.”
03/09/2011 – He blames his infidelity to multiple wives on his passion for the country.
03/15/2011 – Says that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico.
03/19/2011 – He has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now $7.2T unfunded liability)
03/23/2011 – He completely flip-flopped on Libyan intervention in 16 days.
03/25/2011 – He plans to sign as many as 200 executive orders on his first day as president.
04/25/2011 – He’s a paid lobbyist for Federal ethanol subsidies.
05/12/2011 – He was more supportive of individual health-care mandates than Mitt Romney.
08/01/2011 – He hired a company to create fake Twitter to appear as if he had a following.
10/07/2011 – He said he’d ignore the Supreme Court if need be.
11/16/2011 – Was revealed he actually received 1.6 million from Freddie Mac, vs. his previously stated $300,000-
2009-2010 Travels around the country with Al Sharpton and Arne Duncan to promote President Obama’s new educational policies: i.e. increased local control of schools with increased Federal subsidies and regulations from Washington.
2010 Supported ultra-liberal, pro-abortion, pro-union, establishment candidate Dede Scozzafava in New York’s 23rd Congressional District in a special election, over conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.
1995 Gingrich Wrote the foreword to Alvin Toffler’s book, “The Politics of the Third Wave, Creating a New Civilization” and advocated all members of Congress should read the book. The book calls for a “New Democracy” for the 21st century which is essentially based on following Plato’s Third Wave virtues:
1. Private property must be abolished, the wealthy hated and their wealth redistributed by state mandate.
2. Children belong to, and are born to serve the state. The influence of parents is noxious and disruptive to the interest of the state, thus every child should be raised in government nurseries, without knowledge of who his or her parents are and without the parents having knowledge of who their offspring are. Every child becomes the common property of every parent in the city. Every parent has the collective duty to watch over them.
3. Private education, like traditional parenting, is at the very headwaters of falsehood and social strife. It must be eliminated and replaced with a closely monitored state school system.
4. Old values passed down in history, song, children’s books, all need to be rewritten to discredit and erase the old virtues and to exalt and enthrone the new.
5. Frivolous children’s games eliminated, new games developed that emphasize law and order.
6. Private industry is self serving. State should have absolute control of all industry for benefit of the whole.
7. Class mobility is a revolutionary idea that threatens the stability of the state and the pre-eminence of true philosophy. A strict caste system and the elimination of career choice is the answer.
8. Talent must never be allowed to wander or be wasted. Early on, children must be identified and channeled by the state for the benefit of the state into careers selected by the state.
9. Under the guise of equality, women ought to be exploited: first to foment ‘class war’ during the Third Wave (women’s roles are reversed to men’s); next, to be promptly put into their place as part of a ‘community of women’ to be shared collectively by male guardians.
10. Selective breeding is beneficial to the state.
11. Unwanted babies, inferior babies, deformed babies, and the adult handicapped are an unnecessary drag on the prosperity and well-being of society. They should be left to die. Unproductive adults, likewise, should be terminated.
12. Homosexuality is morally acceptable and homosexual rape of lower-class males and boys is a right of rulers, guardians and war heroes.
13. Only a few men are foreordained to understand life and higher good… the rest are equivalent of dumb sheep.
14. Absolute loyalty to the government is vital for the success and safety of society. A state sanctioned National Police network is an essential good.
15. Wealth is not essential to the safety of the state.
- Gingrich voted to permit the Federal Reserve to purchase Treasury Debt
- Bailed out savings and loan institutions in 1991. $40B Bank bailout
- Gingrich voted to strengthen the federal home loan agencies
- Gingrich voted for increased powers to the FDIC to bail out struggling savings and loans through reorganization, purchase of bad assets, or recapitalization.
- Gingrich voted in favor of the Chrysler Bailout in 1979
- Gingrich voted for an oil windfall profits tax in 1979, which was signed by Jimmy Carter.
- Urged the House to repeal the War Powers Act and give the Presidency more power.
- Urged Clinton to expand military presence in Bosnia.
- Gingrich voted against a provision requiring congressional approval prior to deployment of U.S. troops into Central America in 1983.
- Gingrich voted to increase CIA secrecy and against any requirement that the President report covert activity to congress before it is initiated.
- Gingrich voted for Jimmy Carter’s “Energy Mobilization Board.”
- Gingrich voted for an increase in taxes on coal producers in 1981
- Gingrich voted for a 5-cent increase in the gas tax to fund highway and other mass-transit projects.
- Gingrich was one of the few who voted against the 1984 bill requiring the President and Congress to submit a balanced budget
- Gingrich voted for a congressional pay raise
- Gingrich voted against a bipartisan 1% cut to the Department of Defense budget for 1983
2posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 1:20:34 PMby JohnKinAK
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Memo to Gingrich: Get Lost. Now
Gingrich Backs Obamacare’s Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance
Gingrich Backs Obamacare’s Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance (Newt praises Romneycare)
Gingrich Backs Obamacare’s Individual Mandate
Gingrich donors dropping like flies
Gingrich Calls GOP Medicare Plan ‘Right-Wing Social Engineering’ (supports individual mandate)
Bill Bennett to Gingrich: You’re Shooting at [Paul Ryan] From Behind! (Testy Radio Interview)
Gingrich Explains Scozzafava Endorsement, Slams Right-Wing Critics
Newt Gingrich Acknowledges ‘Contradictions’ On His Libya Views, ‘I Was Trying To Follow Obama’
Newt Gingrich Al Sharpton Education Tour (VIDEO)
Newt Gingrich Really Married His High School Math Teacher?
Bachmann Blasts Gingrich on Abortion
Newt calls for ‘humane’ immigration policy
Gingrich ‘prepared to take the heat’ with talk of amnesty (”Let’s be humane in enforcing the law”)
Slapping Romney, DNC stands up for Gingrich immigration stand
On Newt’s ‘humane’ immigration policy (Thomas Sowell)
ENDING THE DISHONESTY: THE WAY FORWARD ON BORDER CONTROL AND PATRIOTIC IMMIGRATION
When Newt Gingrich fought for the moderates
33posted on Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:04:15 PMby Timber Rattler(Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
1- Newt gets asked a question about the individual mandate.
2- Newt dodges the question about the mandate and blames the media for trying to get republicans to fight each other.
3- Newt then goes on a monologue about how obamacare was enacted but does not address the individual mandate question.
So he took his time to slam Obama, the Democrat Congress who pushed Obamacare through without debate, and slam the leftist media for playing their divide and conquer game with the Republicans on stage pointing out the Republican canidates are all united in beating Obama.
In the amount of time he had and given the format of a “presidential debate” run by media delivering clever gottcha questions, that was pretty good. :)
But, it shows the bs of how real and important debates are. They are only showing you who can stand above the Obamamedia manipulation. There is little of substance conveyed. It is all sound bytes. Which is why we should not pick our candidates based soley on “debate” sound bytes. But that is the standards Republican voters seem to have done this election.
Here is the deal-breaker for my support of Nanny-State Newt: “ - - - establish a healthcare safety net - - - “
We can’t afford you Newt, we have been bled dry by the last two spendaholic Presidents for 9 Trillion Dollars.
We trust NO politician until the National Debt Clock has run backward to below the 5 Trillion Dollar Total National Debt amount.
Our sorry Federal Politicians have caused the Total National Debt.
Newt, if you have no plans to QUICKLY reverse the Total National Debt Clock, then withdraw on the 4 th of July, 2012.
Thus, you will be doing America a Patriotic favor, as well as give yourself time to write another book about Public Enemy Number One to America: The US Federal Government.
Everyone ought to watch the entire 32 minutes. Newt gets it. His critics here don’t. Newt is the right man at the right time.
Geez, the pettiness.
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