Posted on 12/09/2011 10:14:48 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Thursday evening that Bush administration officials were gleeful after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks because it gave them a pretext to invade Iraq.
"Just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq," the Texas Republican told a group of mostly young backers in Iowa. He went on to suggest officials are now setting the stage for an invasion of Iran.
Paul, who was tied for second in this week's CBS News/New York Times poll of likely Iowa caucus-goers, is making a strong push in the Hawkeye state in hopes of scoring an upset victory in the first-in-the-nation January 3 caucuses. Paul volunteers have been working to convince Paul's mostly young supporters - many of whom will be on holiday break from college when the caucuses take place - to be sure to make it to their caucus site.
Paul's libertarian views - on the foreign policy front, he wants to dramatically reduce the U.S. military presence abroad and end all foreign aid - put him at odds with many Republican voters. A poll from Gallup this week found that 62 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning independent voters see Paul as an unacceptable nominee.
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If I ever go crazy I pray I never go crazy in this sad way.
I didn't know Rosie has had an account on FR.
To set you straight, I support this guy only when he tells it like it is, going against the group think. I give this guy credit only because he says a lot of things which are absolutely correct. Like what he said here for instance. Apparently only you and a few others had no clue Bush had intentions of going into Iraq before 911 occurred.
It was no secret to anyone except maybe you and a few others. You can argue against this all you care to.
The old guy didn't say or mean Bush was happy about all those who died on 911, only that it allowed him to open the door or implement what his intentions were prior to the event.
You're entitled to your opinion, but not your *own* facts.
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Yes, “glee” is often used to describe sadness....How silly of me. /sarc
RuPaul is proving, for the millionth time, that he hates America. If you want to defend that, be my guest.
But did they leave the barn door wide open? Yes they did.
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Brilliant!
Slightedintelligence....
buy bye.
That's where I'm at. I could see Iraq, but only as a gateway to Afghanistan and a flanking position to Iran. (Not saying Saddam and his boys didn't need killing, just that that alone was a murky strategic justification for the operation--and no, I fully respect all the folks who went in and those who are still serving, they have done an excellent job of securing the objectives they have been given.)
Unfortunately, current political policy negates those strategic positions, and essentially fulfils the whole "quagmire" and "Another Vietnam" meme the Liberals have been pushing from day one. (The US Military won the war, the US Government snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, and it is happening again because the instability in the region is actively being promoted elsewhere to establish a Caliphate, or at least placing the arsenals of nations in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood and affiliates like AlQaida, and our sudden withdrawal will likely leave a power vacumn which will be filled by the MB, AQ, and other affiliates of AQ).
Either we press for victory in the region or withdraw, there will be no 'steady state' of equilibrium without pouring unimaginable treasure and the cream of American soldiers into the breach.
Frankly, we're broke.
Our southern border is an unsecured superhighway into the heartland and even the coasts and urban regions, and policy--from waving mexican trucks across to gunrunning and money laundering for the Cartels to leaving the border unsecured--sucks.
Reading the writing on the wall, we have to secure the border or the same people who read Sun Tsu in Arabic will exploit the weakness, and may have done so already to preposition what they need to create unimaginable mayhem.
Again, Government policy is facillitating the next disaster.
No doubt, it will be blamed on the political opponents of the people in power in the US, currently the rich, Christians, firearm owners, and those who have pushed for securing the border and desire a govenrment which conforms with its Constitutional mandates and restrictions.
Similar in fashion to the way others have secured power in the last century, those who do the dirty work will be promised much and will also be the victims of the same power structure they think will benefit them once power is consolidated--and that covers a wide variety of 'useful idiots'.
Just my $0.02
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Our country is broke because of Socialist Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and bloated federal pensions.
If you’ll note, none of the above is Constitutional.
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I’m sorry if my last post came off as rude, but conspiracy theory nonsense bores me to tears.
9/11 happened because a bunch of Islamo-Nazis flew planes into buildings. End of story. Could it have been prevented ? Maybe, if the Bill Caligula regime hadn’t made a mess of things before Bush came along.
Now, don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot to blame Bush for, (Medicaid Part D, NCLB, the bailouts) but causing 9/11 is not one of them, nor is being happy about it as RuPaul suggests.
I think the blame for those and other failures goes directly to those who failed to note the Islamic connection with the first WTC bombing, OK City bombing (John Does and the Nichols connection to Abu Sayef in the Phillipines), the Flight 800 and possibly other plane 'crashes', the embassy bombings in Africa and the Khobar Towers bombing.
There was a general escalation in the severity of events, finally capped by 9/11--an undeniable terrorist attack that couldn't be simply printed below the fold or in the back of the A section of the paper, and one which could not be glossed over.
Perhaps if the onus hadn't been to promote the 'homegrown hayseed terrorist' meme in order to advance Gun Control Agendae, (similar to the current mess involving 'border violence' and similar attempts to further infringe on the RKBA with gunwalker), the dots would have been more generally connected.
Once, however, the Clintons had set the theme, no one was in a hurry to make the point that foreign terrorists had been operating here for far too long, especially not agency hacks who would suffer, career-wise, for the diversion of efforts.
Sometimes there is a generalized conspiracy (note lowercase 'c'). It doesn't start out that way, it becomes defined as policy, institutionalized, and once sucked in, few will change their position until all are forced to do so.
Of course, paybacks for Gulf War I may have been on the mind of those who wanted to build their status in the Islamic world, and who better to dump them on than GHW Bush's son?
There, of course, is the swirling route to the abyss, especially when one considers the employees, pensions, and benefits which have accrued for all those extraConstitutional employees.
The only nation we should be building, at least according to my copy of the Constitution, is this one...and then the Federal Government should only be providing standards of measurement, coining money, and generally settling State level disputes.
(In the meantime, if National Security is so important, we could close that pesky southern border. It's been open since the Eisenhower Administration, and was recognized as a problem then.)
While Government can foster an environment suitable for the expansion and innovation of private sector business, safeguarding the inventor's rights and facillitating trade, it never was the engine of growth which was intended to provide direct employment for any but the absolute minimum number of people required to fulfil its Constitutional Duties.
The unfortunate state of affairs is that the Federal Government has become a self-perpetuating entity, writing the rules which demand it expand to fulfil ever more extensive and invasive roles while usurping the power of the States and the People. It is the Congressional abdication of legislative duties which has led to the Congress requiring that Executive Branch Agencies promulgate regulations with the weight of law and set the standards which ultimately determine their manpower needs.
These fiefdoms have long exceeded any Constitutional Authority, and continue to grow.
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