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I'm going in the opposite direction, DO, before I wanted to kick the GOP establishment in the groin but right now I'll settle for the lesser of evils. Fight the battle in the primaries, ok, but in the end my objective remains the same.

I'm not going to give you a hard time for that. I think there are arguments to be made for it. I used to make them Then I realized they could loft the likes of John McCain, and we'd still be forced into voting for him because he wasn't as bad as Obama.

As bad as Obama is, I absolutely shudder to think what McCain would be doing in our name right now. We wouldn't have the House We wouldn't be contemplating a possible Senate majority.

PTL, that what Obama is doing right now, is not being done by our side, in our name, destroying our brand. It was eight years of that that put him in the White House.

Its a practical matter. Since this bastard in the WH is clearly intent upon pissing away the wealth accrued by generations of Americans, is spending my grandkids' earnings & tearing down my country as fast as he possibly can with what time he has left to do so I want him out and now. I will not help him win another term, not in any way shape, or form. Not in the least. As much as I hate to admit it, right now I'll settle for the slow road to Gomorrah the republicans typically take rather than the express lane.

Okay, well at least you know what you're buying off on. I too am truly very concerned about what Obama has the power to do right now. I am also extemely concerned about what any Republican can achieve, if only they try to do it in our name. If we should by some strike of luck get the House and the Senate, can you imagine John McCain being in there getting a rubber stamp for whatever he wanted to do? How will you like it if Mittens gets in under those cirumstances?

Who would stand in his way to implement squishy Lefist leaning policy. That administration could be as big a windfall to the Left as to us. Republican House and Senate could neuter Obama. It won't neuter our folks.

We don't have the luxury of sending the GOP establishment a message this time. Because I sincerely believe that if this man has another term it will be over for us. There will be no opportunity to reform the republican party, no conservative savior, nothing. It will be over.

Frankly, I thought the same thing under Clinton. Then we replaced him, and things actually got worse. Our debt was around $5.9 billion when Bush was sworn in.

The ironic thing for me is I living in CA I won't even have a chance to cast a meaningful vote in the primaries.

I won't either. It sucks.

I appreciate your thoughts on this. We may not agree, but we do understand the stakes and share the utmost concern about where we are headed.

Who would stand in his way to implement squishy Lefist leaning policy. That administration could be as big a windfall to the Left as to us. Republican House and Senate could neuter Obama. It won't neuter our folks.

One final comment... as squishy as he was, at least Bush was sensitive to pressure from the right. Obama, on the other hand, currently is going nuts with the EO and the media right along with him. No one is stopping him - not the moderate wing of the democrat party (which is a fable) & least of all the republican in congress.

He has to go in part because I do not trust the republicans to stop him.