[Ozymandias Ghost]

To be fair, I doubt anything could change the majority of minds w/regard to 2nd Amendment rights in CA, MA, NY, NJ, CT ...a sad and hopeless case. I truly grieve for the rights of the many in those states who earnestly wish to be able to protect themselves but are prevented by their state and local governments from doing so.

[Labyrinthos]

To be fair, I doubt anything could change the majority of minds w/regard to 2nd Amendment rights in CA, MA, NY, NJ, CT ...a sad and hopeless case. I truly grieve for the rights of the many in those states who earnestly wish to be able to protect themselves but are prevented by their state and local governments from doing so.

I live in NY and have had an unrestricted CCW permit for several years. A CCW permit is not all that hard to obtain unless you live in NYC or Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, Albany, Onodanga, Monroe, or Erie County.