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To: Ozymandias Ghost
To be fair, I doubt anything could change the majority of minds w/regard to 2nd Amendment rights in CA, MA, NY, NJ, CT ...a sad and hopeless case. I truly grieve for the rights of the many in those states who earnestly wish to be able to protect themselves but are prevented by their state and local governments from doing so.

I live in NY and have had an unrestricted CCW permit for several years. A CCW permit is not all that hard to obtain unless you live in NYC or Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, Albany, Onodanga, Monroe, or Erie County.

13 posted on 12/07/2011 7:28:36 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

What stinks is that if you have a CCW for upstate, you still can’t carry in NYC unless you have an endorsement from the NYPD. But if you’re “lucky” enough to have a NYC issued unrestricted permit, you can carry all over the state. Total arbitrary and capricious crap, and is racist in it’s roots. See the Sullivan law. People that support this bilge are supporting laws that were intended to disarm minorities, though they’ll never admit to that. As far as NJ is concerned, I think in order to qualify for public office, you have to openly declare your hatred for anything related to the 2nd Amendment. Merely mentioning the word “gun” in front of a judge, may get you sentenced to 7 years in States prison, because of all of the carnage and mayhem that law abiding citizens create when they decide to arm themselves!!!!!


14 posted on 12/07/2011 8:22:01 AM PST by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy
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To: Labyrinthos
Thx for posting that and I appreciate the clarification as many are probably not aware of that fact. I was aware of the NY state vs NYC concealed carry disparity ...but that still leaves all of NYC and that's a huge number of people ...and probably the place in NY you'd most need to carry.

Regards,

-Geoff

18 posted on 12/07/2011 10:37:02 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Labyrinthos
Thx for posting that and I appreciate the clarification as many are probably not aware of that fact. I was aware of the NY state vs NYC concealed carry disparity ...but that still leaves all of NYC and that's a huge number of people ...and probably the place in NY you'd most need to carry.

Regards,

-Geoff

19 posted on 12/07/2011 10:37:03 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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