Posted on 12/07/2011 4:14:25 AM PST by nuconvert
Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari traveled to Dubai for medical tests on his heart after falling ill, officials and associates said Wednesday, triggering Twitter-fueled rumors that the under-pressure leader may be stepping down.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Foreign Policy magazine “ quoted an unnamed former U.S. government official as saying Zardari was “incoherent” when he spoke with President Barack Obama by telephone over the weekend. “
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Zardari was never very coherent to start with. Not that it mattered since he was little more than a figurehead.
a little more here...
http://news.yahoo.com/pakistan-presidents-health-checkup-sparks-rumors-074133085.html
Feel sorry for the translator.
“Not that it mattered since he was little more than a figurehead.”
Spot On! The military runs the country, and the Punjabis run the military.
BTW & For what it’s worth
Terrorists in Love: The Real Lives of Islamic Radicals
Ken Ballen
“Mystical dreams and visions, the demonic figure of the United States, intense sexual repression, crumbling family and tribal structures—the story that emerges here is both shocking and breathtakingly complex. Terrorists in Love introduces us to men like Ahmad Al-Shayea, an Al Qaeda suicide bomber who survives his attack only to become fiercely pro-American; Zeddy, who trains terrorists while being paid by America’s ally, the Pakistani Army; and Malik, Taliban leader Mullah Omar’s personal seer. Lifting the veil on the mysterious world of Muslim holy warriors, Ballen probes these men’s deepest secrets, revealing the motivations behind their deadly missions and delivering a startling new exploration of what drives them to violence and why there is yet an unexpected hope for peace. An extraordinarily gifted listener and storyteller, Ballen takes us where no one has dared to go—deep into the secret heart of Islamic fundamentalism, providing a glimpse at the lives, loves, frustrations, and methods of those whose mission it is to destroy us.”
(available at all the usual sources)
Interesting read
The scandal dubbed 'memogate' has claimed its first scalp, with the resignation of Pakistan's ambassador to the US, Husain Haqqani. Mr Haqqani continues to deny that he was behind a memo imploring the US to intervene to stop a potential overthrow of President Asif Ali Zardari's civilian government by the military.
As a true American patriot, I must proudly point out that absolutely no one is more incoherent than our President Obama. I wonder if he was using a teleprompter for this phone chat.
I have been listening to our first Affirmative Action President since 2007 and the only thing that somehow gets through is, "Obamafixin' to screw your country."
Zardari will probably stay with his children in Dubai and take care of his money. I do not expect him back, do you?
“Zardari will probably stay with his children in Dubai and take care of his money. I do not expect him back, do you?”
He’d be crazy to go back.
The baby Bhuttos all returned together a decade after daddy Bhutto was strung up. Of course, they did that will support from the military and Islamism wasn’t as rampant as it is now.
Nawaz Sharif also returned after Musharraf nearly sent him to the gallows and exile.
So it’s not impossible that Zardari and his kids could return but like Sharif, their political clout would be severely weakened. Not that any politician has had much clout there over the past decade.
>>>”The baby Bhuttos all returned together a decade after daddy Bhutto was strung up. Of course, they did that will support from the military and Islamism wasn’t as rampant as it is now.”<<<
And, Benazir Bhutto (one of the “babies”) was assassinated in Pakistan in 2007. She returned w/out the support of “military” & “Islamism” has been a Problem in Pakistan for at least 3 DECADES.. check your history!
Sorry dude, you are the one who needs to check your history. Benazir returned with the approval of the military both in 1988 and later in 2007. If she had returned without military support, she would have been put back on a plane just like Nawaz Sharif was.
If Islamism has been a “problem” in Pakistan for so long, how come nobody heard about routine terrorist attacks in Lahore and Rawalpindi or the risk of the state breaking up.
There was no military approval when Benazir Bhutto returned either in 1988 or in 2007. She took a HUGE risk on both occasions, more so in 2007. She and even “General” Pervez Mosharaf had been at odds for decades, before Mosharaf was installed as the President in 2001 (and despite his obvious denials). She was Against General Pervez Mosharaf, despite US support for him. She even said so on a number of occasions, while she was still alive & living in the UK.
Sorry dude, your post #13 was incomplete & therefore misleading.
Nobody heard about “Islamism” being a problem in Pakistan for 3 Decades for the same reason MSM doesn’t say much at all about Saudis terrorism. So long as they ‘officially’ remain US ‘allies’. Just because MSM (particularly in the US) doesn’t report things or puts its own spin on it, it doesn’t mean it isn’t or hasn’t been happening.
If there was no military approval for Bhutto’s returning to Pakistan, why didn’t they stop her? It’s not like they are a bunch of pussies who stand by and do nothing. They had put Nawaz Sharif back on a plane to Saudi Arabia minutes after he had landed. And this was barely a month before Benazir returned. She lost much credibility among her supporters and family both in 1986 and 2007 for her deals with Zia ul Haq and Musharraf. These are facts, not my opinion. Benazir’s statements are about as honest as those coming from the Iranians on their nuclear programme.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/10/pakistan.declanwalsh2
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/opinion/19fri1.html
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpapers25%5Cpaper2454.html
I don’t need the MSM to tell me that Islamic extremism in Pakistan in the 80s was nowhere on the same scale as it is now. Did the Tehreek E Taliban Pakistan or Lashkar E Taiba exist?? Were their frequent attacks on hotels and military facilities in major cities back then.
No, they aren't "pussies", they didn't something: They killed her!
Correct, "Islamic extremism in Pakistan in the 80s was nowhere on the same scale as it is now." - everything has a beginning (again check your history about how "Islamism" came to spread in the ME, N. Africa, and in fact around the globe post-Khomeini in 1979, the Taliban, US & the USSR - the Taliban being a product of Pakistan, helped by Others.
Also, you never heard much about "Islamism" back then, because : A) no widely other accessible media (other than msm) such as the Internet, for instance - B) 2001 Brought ("Islamism") to world's attention. The average Tom, Dick & Harry in the West was in lala-land before then, about what has since been coined as "Islamism".
Thanks for the links.
Again, it’s open to debate as to who killed her. The suspects range from Musharraf to the Islamists to estranged members of the Bhutto clan (a history of deceit and bloodshed) and of course, Mr 10 percent.
By the way, I am not in the West and have had far greater access to Pakistani and Islamic history and culture than most average folks do. And I happen to know that while Pakistan was not exactly paradise in the 1980s, it was somewhat more habitable than it is now. Why don’t you try answering the question I asked you-did the TTP and LeT exist back in the 80s? If they did, were they targeting Pakistani cities?
And if you bothered to read my comment no.13, I said Islamism wasn’t as rampant as it is now. Not that it didn’t exist at all.
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