There are a lot of complete morons infesting the planet right now.
Solved: CO2 emissions 93% correlated with temperature and soil moisture, NOT human activity!
Carbon cycle questions
Posted on August 4, 2011
by Judith Curry
I just finished listening to Murry Salbys podcast on Climate Change and Carbon. Wow.
The abstract for his talk is here:
PROFESSOR MURRY SALBY
Chair of Climate, Macquarie University
Atmospheric Science, Climate Change and Carbon Some Facts
Carbon dioxide is emitted by human activities as well as a host of natural processes.
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Andrew Bolt has some reactions in the Herald Sun:
Salbys argument is that the usual evidence given for the rise in CO2 being man-made is mistaken. Its usually taken to be the fact that as carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere increase, the 1 per cent of CO2 thats the heavier carbon isotope ratio c13 declines in proportion. Plants, which produced our coal and oil, prefer the lighter c12 isotope. Hence, it must be our gasses that caused this relative decline.
But that conclusion holds true only if there are no other sources of c12 increases which are not human caused. Salby says there are the huge increases in carbon dioxide concentrations caused by such things as spells
of warming and El Ninos, which cause concentration levels to increase independently of human emissions. He suggests that its warmth which tends to produce more CO2, rather than vice versa which, incidentally is the story
of the past recoveries from ice ages.
http://judithcurry.com/2011/08/04/carbon-cycle-questions/
New research: warmth produces these carbon dioxide concentrations
Professor Murry Salby, chair of climate at Macquarie University, has inleashed on global warming alarmism in a lecture this week to the Sydney Institute.
Salby has worked at leading research institutions, including the US National Center for Atmospheric Research, Princeton University, and the University of Colorado, and is the author of Fundamentals of Atmospheric Physics, and
Physics of the Atmosphere and Climate, due out in 2011.
Salbys argument is that the usual evidence given for the rise in CO2 being man-made is mistaken. Its usually taken to be the fact that as carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere increase, the 1 per cent of CO2 thats the heavier carbon isotope ratio c13 declines in proportion. Plants, which produced our coal and oil, prefer the lighter c12 isotope. Hence, it must be our gasses that caused this relative decline.
But that conclusion holds true only if there are no other sources of c12 increases which are not human caused. Salby says there are - the huge increases in carbon dioxide concentrations caused by such things as spells of warming and El Ninos, which cause concentration levels to increase
independently of human emissions. He suggests that its warmth which tends to produce more CO2, rather than vice versa - which, incidentally is the story of the past recoveries from ice ages.
Ive summarised this from just a rushed hearing of his lecture, not having access to his notes or the charts he produced on the evening. His findings, he says, have been peer reviewed and accepted for publication, so more will
follow.
Some other highlights of his talk:
He said he had an involuntary gag reflex whenever someone said the science was settled.
Anyone who thinks the science of this complex thing is settled is in Fantasia. The climate models used by global warmists suggest we should have twice the warming weve actually seen recently.
Listen here. ... [see for link:]
(NB: you may have to cut’n paste that link to make sure you get it all into your browser correctly)
He asked the students and they agreed to it.
Remove this teacher immediately. His idiocy is ruining young lives.
Meanwhile, here in the USA, Algore is heating his enormous mansion to a comfy temperature.
Some pigs are more worthy of heat than others.
Idiots... What happens when the plumbing freezes and damages pipes/fixtures? How’s that plan looking then?
“beyond stupid” sounds pretty accurate.
That describes most of environmentalism.
He was teaching his pupils the 3 R`s:
Reading, Writing and Rheumatism
I’d like to introduce him to my footprint.
Something tells me this has less to do with global warming and more to do with the school trying to save money on the heating bill.
It’s SO stupid how these morons have adopted the premise that the planet is something that needs to be saved.... by us. If this were done to one of my kids at school, that would be their final day going to that particular asylum.
What is going to happen with the planet is GOING to happen, regardless of what we do, or whether or not we are even here.
It’s maddening to see commercials on TV playing to these idiotic people. “My car gets good gas mileage. I’m saving the planet!” Such complete and total bullshit.
He had been sacrificing virgins to save the planet, and that had worked very well, but it was getting hard to find virgins, so he decided to turn off the heat in the classroom to see if that would also save the planet. Guess what? It worked! The planet is still here!
Did he open the windows too? How do you get a large, previously heated building full of people and lights to go down to 34 deg F in one day? Even if he turned off the heat the previous afternoon. Even if it got below freezing overnight.
We are in a Dark Ages marked by the utter, complete, blithering stupidity of mankind.
What in God’s name has happened to us? ><
-31 F here last night—57 degrees variation in one day (high of 26 F the previous afternoon).
I take it this occurred in Effing, UK.
"The idea was actually thought up by a small number of pupils from our student eco-group."
He took a bunch of of 12 year old pre pubescent dreamers seriously????
No you're not...you're all for doing feeeeeel good nonsense that makes you think you are so special, "Look at meeeeee! I'm saving a planet!!!"
but...
That's a mighty big but you have there. Suddenly, when you're inconvenienced, your cause doesn't make you feel so special anymore, does it?