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To: Prokopton

I certainly have heard of capitalism and worked for people who have far more money than Mr. Cain. My last boss could buy and sell Cain a dozen times, and even though he is worth more than $100 million (self made, not inherited), he still lives a pretty humble life. Drives a luxury car when he could easily afford a car and driver. Flies first class commercial when he could easily do the Net-Jets fractional ownership thing. Has two nice homes in Wi and Fla, and donates a lot of money to charity through his foundation.

I was recently at one his homes for 80th birthday party for him. Some of the wealthiest people in Wisconsin were there, people who have donated 10’s of millions to many of their alma maters, have buildings named after them at Universities, etc. I have golfed with these people, worked for them, and almost without exception, they are self made. If you met them on the street, would have no idea how much money they are worth. The ones with true wealth many times do not show it, the ones who try to show it usually are not nearly as wealthy as they want you to appear.

Spending other peoples money to maintain a high lifestyle is not my idea of capitalism. Having traveled on business to Hong Kong, Europe, Japan, etc. I can tell you that I could have stayed at better hotels, ate at better restaurants, etc. I watch the money I spend precisely because in a capitalist system, profit is the ultimate measure of success, not appearances. I treat other peoples money I spend as my own, not as an ATM with unlimited over draft privileges. Any employee of a company from CEO on down is accountable for the expenses they incur, and the CEO should have to justify his just as a mid-level manager should.

The cult of Cain is suc a curious thing. He is self made without question, and deserves credit for that. I think people would be surprised if they saw that his net worth is probably not close to what he portrays, After he left Pillsbury (Godfathers) he did a couple years running NRA at $250k or so, and then a radio talk show which basically failed. He hired a guy from Wisconsin who was stocking shelves at Target to run his campaign, not a true professional who would have cost him a lot of cash.

Power corrupts and Cain seems to have let the position he has attained in society to corrupt him. That is my opinion and no amount of hectoring from FReepers with blinders on is going to change that. BTW CEO of NRA is paid through the dues of the member chapters and restaurants. Cain QUIT before his three year term was up, and the spending thing was a part of why he wore out his welcome there and left before his three year contract was up. That is not conjecture, it is a fact.


45 posted on 12/06/2011 9:42:23 AM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

Did you realize you trashed Cain for spending too much, then trash him for not spending more.

Plenty of good people have tried talk radio and failed. Here you attempt to use that as a negative against Cain.

Okay, Cain didn’t run his campaign like you ran your business trips. LMAO, now there’s a reason to dis a presidential candidate. Tell me the long list of presidential candidates who watch their expenses like you did on a business trip.

So Cain didn’t exist on peanut butter and jelly, live in tents, and travel by horseback. Just damn him...

Okay, you don’t care what the rest of us think. That’s definitely best.


53 posted on 12/06/2011 10:38:10 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: milwguy
My last boss could buy and sell Cain a dozen times, and even though he is worth more than $100 million (self made, not inherited), he still lives a pretty humble life.

Great. I prefer the lifestyle of Malcom Forbes, the Happy Billionaire. Spent money like nobody's business, and it wasn't. Made his money honestly and spread it around. His prolific spending habits were a one man boost to the economy. He enjoyed life, including the things the money he made provided for, to the fullest.

You seem to equate spending money with corruption. There is no truth to it. If you enjoy the company of "humble" people, go for it. I prefer the company of men like Forbes who, when a writer for a Car Magazine asked him why he had 20 brand new, expensive motorcycles in his garage said, with a twinkle in his eye, "I like to go riding, and sometimes friends like to come along".

55 posted on 12/06/2011 10:43:38 AM PST by Prokopton
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