Syria Ignores Arab Deadline (Rumors of War)

Gulf News ^ | December 5, 2011 | Staff Writer

[gandalftb]

Dubai: Syria faced new sanctions after missing an Arab League deadline yesterday to allow observers to monitor the uprising.

A senior Qatari official was quoted as saying that Syria had asked for "new clarifications and further amendments to be made to the protocol which was proposed" to cover the deployment of the observer mission. But the Arab ministers had "refused."

Yesterday's deadline was announced in Doha by Qatari Prime Minister Shaikh Hamad Bin Jasem Al Thani, who also warned against the internationalisation of the Syrian crisis if Damascus did not heed the Arab call.

[gandalftb]

In my post #15, the phrase “taken out” was in quotes as a restate to post #12 made by others.

I used only the word “neutralized” to describe the end result of the Syrian civil war.

I am familiar with the Alewites and their minority control over the Syrian military.

Of Syrians: 74% are Sunni/Sufi, 13% are Alawites/Ismailis/Twelvers, 10% are Christians,and 3% are Druze.

After a civil war, in a national power vacuum, minorities always have the threat of abuse. Christians are not going to be massacred, the Alewites have a much larger chance of retribution as they have been oppressing and murdering the Sunni majority for years.

Egypt does not have jihadists coming to power, your statements border on the hysterical. Of course, Islamists may come to power and they may contain some jihadists, as all Arab populations do.

Bottom line, Muslims have learned that jihadists are bad for government and bad for business.

Israel would greatly profit from a Syria without overt Iranian influence. All the Palestinians are a problem for Israel. A more neutral Syria might come to the peace table with Israel like Jordan and Egypt have done. The difficult negotiations would still be difficult, but they would be less complex.

[wxgesr]

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[wxgesr]

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[Cronos]

note:

1. the number of Christians you've quoted is 10% -- the official figure. There are many refugees from Iraq (which had 2 million Christians in 2003 and only 400,000 and dropping now)

2. Christians will be massacred -- I give you Iraq and Egypt as empirical proof

3. islamists in power -- come on, what else do you call the Moslem brotherhood? The Moslem brotherhood is also the group that gave the same philosophy to AlQaeda and is heavily influenced by Wahabbi philosophy

A more neutral Syria might come to the peace table with Israel like Jordan and Egypt have done -- that is not going to happen. in fact Jordan and Egypt came to the peace table due to strong men -- and the new Egypt regime IS heavily anti-Israel

Assad may be the devil, but he's the devil we know -- the replacement will be worse.

[Cronos]

gandalfb: Egypt does not have jihadists coming to power, your statements border on the hysterical

Au contraire: an ally no more: Egypt

With vote tallies in for Egypt’s first round of parliamentary elections in it is abundantly clear that Egypt is on the fast track to becoming a totalitarian Islamic state.

I'm sorry, but your statement is wrong - this is not "hysteria" -- it's from the Jewish World Review...

[gandalftb]

“Jewish World Review” is hardly objective.

You’re going to wear your self out chasing every Dore Gold, etc. and Jewish drumbeater publications.

I am a big support of Israel but virtually all of their associated publications live to slosh out hyperbole to scare the world to their side.

We need to calm down over Egypt, Libya, Turkey. Those are very mixed societies and moderate elements will emerge over time. There won’t be any welcome home parties for Zawahiri.

[gandalftb]

1. Half of the 1.2 million (2007) Iraqi Chaldean Christians have left Iraq for other countries, many in Europe. 250,000 are living in the Detroit area. That depopulation will continue but there has been no widespread massacres.

2.& 3. Check out this article:

http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsContent/1/64/28346/Egypt/Politics-/Egypt-Copts-react-to-Islamist-electoral-win.aspx

Real Egyptians from both sides talking rationally about the future.