Posted on 12/02/2011 6:39:28 PM PST by freespirited
Thanks for reading me right. I know my faults. I also know my God is bigger than my faults. I figure if He could speak through an ass, I must still be qualified also. lol
No, but it puts your husband on dangerous ground.
Hasn't Cain admitted knowing her and giving her money without his wife's knowledge?
Well, thank you for calling my sweet, humble, generous, and faithful husband an arrogant “honorable” husband because he hasn’t told me every person he ever counseled and/or helped out financially in a pinch.
People have no clue what it’s like to be in a pastor’s family. They just don’t. I started posting about what it’s like at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2814962/posts?page=134#134
What are YOU talking about?
Yes, he has admitted knowing her and giving her money without his wife’s knowledge.
What’s your point?
Follow the thread.
Whatever happened between them, he kept it a secret from his wife for 13 years, which in and of itself is worthy of being condemned as being dishonest.
Sara, I am very much aware of what the left and the media does to conservatives.
What I wasn’t aware of is what conservatives do to conservatives. That is what is shocking to me.
What saddens me the most about this entire situation is that Herman survived stage IV cancer just to have this experience, just to be destoryed by human filth, and to have the people that he wanted to help turn on him and turn their backs on him.
what I want to tell conservatives, generally speaking because there were some who did stand for him, but sadly we were few in number, is this.
Stand alone against your enemy as you made Herman do.
Loving people always puts us on dangerous ground. The only safe action is to do nothing. The greatest, most loving, and wisest Man the earth has ever seen was hung on a pole for everybody to spit on until He died. It wasn’t Safe Friday; it was GOOD Friday. Loving means risk.
Somebody in a previous conversation today said that no man gives money without expecting something in return. I have never heard anything so cynical in my life. That’s saying that there is no man on earth who has real love. Wow, what an indictment of the people in that poster’s life.
We’ve seen self-serving cads in office for a long time, but to believe that real love doesn’t exist at all is a very, very sad thing.
On this thread, we have firsthand witness posts by a Preacher's Wife, who has said her husband has done the exact same thing as Cain: Given financial support to a woman, without the wife's knowledge, for over a 2 year period of time.
That doesn't make him dishonest.
Do you tell your spouse about every act of charity that you do? Do you tell your spouse when you tip a waitress 50% or 100% instead of 15-20%? That is a charitable act to a female, without informing your spouse. Does that make you dishonest?
What you misread in others is merely a reflection of your mind.
Apparently your mind is corrupt. Mine is not. Innocent until proven guilty. I can wait a few days or weeks for facts or evidence to come out, not just her word, with ZERO proof of anything other than texts, mostly from her, and a single phone call. ONE phone call in all of October and November. Probably initiated by her. Wow... what a guilty man!
Pastors dont tell people the stuff they give because its between them and God, and the Bible says not to do stuff to get praise from people but to not let your right hand know what the left is doing.”
Believers and Unbelivers are like wheat in the field. Believers with their “heads bowed” in humbleness not looking for praise or rewards for their actions.
UnBelievers with their “heads held high” looking for praise for every single thing they do.
Sounds like we have a lot of Un-Believers on here otherwise why would people care so much that he did not tell his wife.
If she has his personal cell phone number and he has hers then it’s a big red flag, especially with a whole lot of texting going on at all times of the day and night.
The difference with the woman in your example and Cain’s friend is it seems the woman went to the ministerial alliance and other churches for help. The Cain woman was kept secret for 13 years. Surely you can see the difference?
I don't care what anyone says.
Dealing with a woman on a personal basis is not the same as giving to a charity, so stop talking nonsense.
Clearly, you haven't read in the Bible where it says that we ought not to even give the APPEARANCE of evil (1Thess.5)
He is running for the top job in the world. If he can’t handle the vetting of a primary race how the hell do you think he would handle a real crisis?
He hasn’t had to have his past publicly examined before because he has never held public office. You need to turn off the computer, news, and noise of the political race and get some fresh perspective as it seems you are really heavily emotionally invested.
He admits that he knows her, admits he gave her money and admits his wife didn't know about her.
What else is there to know about?
Correction Change UnBelivers to Make believers. The Worst kind.
Revelations 3
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Either I am having a hard time understanding you, because you aren’t using complete sentences, or you are intentionally leaving out words and expecting me to read your mind.
What are you talking about?
Conversely, guilty of what?
It has nothing to do with being 'self serving', the fact is no minister of the church should leave himself and the church vulnerable to accusations of wrong doing.
That is what is burning Cain now.
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