Posted on 12/02/2011 6:30:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Here’s the news people on Twitter are buzzing about from tonight’s raincheck interview with the Manchester Union-Leader. We already knew this, though — sort of. Cain told Wolf Blitzer on Monday, before we had heard Ginger White’s name, that his wife didn’t know White. (Skip to 7:30 of this clip.) That’s ever so slightly different from saying his wife didn’t know about White or that he was sending her cash, but c’mon: If she did know that, don’t you think he would have mentioned it to Blitzer as proof that their friendship was no secret?
Cain said that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, White was “asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend.
“She wasn’t the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent’ or whatever the case may be. I don’t remember all the specifics.”…
“My wife now knows,” Cain said. “My wife and I have talked about it and I have explained it to her. My wife understands that I’m a soft-hearted giving person.”…
He said White did not threaten to go public with the allegation of an affair if Cain did not give her money, “nor was there any indication that there might be blackmail or anything like that…
Cain said he does not know why White has gone public with the allegation, “but I have very strong speculation that someone offered her a lot of money.
Supposedly she was desperate for cash, desperate enough that she’d risk ruining the marriage of a friend who’d been sweet enough to give her money by lying in exchange for a payout from some shadowy enemy — yet not so desperate that she’d try to blackmail Cain himself? If that’s true, she has a strange moral code.
Here’s the vid of the Union-Leader interview. Skip ahead to 22:00 and 46:00 for a few questions about White. Cain’s lawyer is pushing back by demanding copies of her phone records to try to prove that she was the one sending most of the texts, but even if that’s true, his polls are what they are. I can understand him wanting to stay in the race on principle if he’s innocent, but his support is now a wasting asset; if he wants to exchange it for something valuable, the sooner he does it, the better. Romney’s desperate to keep Cain’s supporters from bolting for Gingrich so he’d probably offer Cain something in return for an endorsement (Cain endorsed him in 2008, remember), but … what could he offer? A cabinet appointment or ambassadorship requires Senate approval, which would mean new scrutiny from Democrats of the harassment charges, White’s allegations, etc. Plus, endorsing Romney this time would complicate Cain’s brand as an authentic grassroots conservative anti-establishmentarian and he needs that brand to protect his chances at a show on Fox or a new talk-radio gig. Then again, endorsing Gingrich wouldn’t do much for his brand either. If he doesn’t endorse Mitt, then who? (Speaking of Newt, check out our very clever frontrunner turning a question about Cain into a play for social cons.)
One thing Romney has that Cain increasingly needs is campaign cash. According to WaPo, the Cain Train is almost out of steam financially, to the point where they can’t afford to run ads rebutting all the charges against him. If he ends up in debt, Romney could promise to erase his liabilities in return for an endorsement and some appearances on the stump. Obviously, though, that’ll matter much more to Romney when Cain’s still at 10-15 percent than when he’s at five. Tick tock. Click the image to watch.
Could be; but when you let the left take what you believe over; that’s pretty much what happens.
Yep, that’s what I mean. Example, McCain. No one voted for McCain except McCain.
Where did you come up with that junk?
I hope you’re not a pilot.
Hilarious.
Both comparisons have me LOL.
Comparing Trump to Cain? And a contribution to charity compared to sending Ginger White money for 13 years.
Too funny.
Where did you come up with that junk?
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The only junk was your attempt to absolve Herman Cain of any responsibility for the pickle he is now in, claiming it was the nameless, faceless left.
I’m sorry that the truth about Herman bothers you so much that you must invent a story - that the situation he is in now is a creation of the left. As I pointed out, the left did not send money to Ginger White using Herman Cain’s letterhead, he sent the money himself. And he chose not to mention to his wife that he was doing so.
So what junk are you talking about?
You married? I am. For 22 years.
RE: And, NO, I wouldn’t feel obligated to tell my wife...
What would she feel if she found out that you’ve been doing it and never told her?
I won’t vote for you either.
Married for 28 years, jackass. So glad you have decided who I am and what I think. You couldn’t be more wrong. Nobody is absolving Cain of anything. I am pointing out the fact that the this is part of the Left’s tools. There was one thing you missed; if you were looking at all and that is the lesbian and Ginger were having an affair for 13 years. How convenient for the left to make up a story so we can become distracted and dissolve like jello in a bowl.
Instead of buying their act hook, line and sinker we should be concentrating on getting real conservative elected which there seem to be few. Actually, it’s pretty straightforward.
Right back ya.
Wow. I just asked a question, freekitty. Not sure why you are calling me a jackass. I hope you realize the complete lack of impact it has on an anonymous internet forum.
Married people have a different perspective on marital issues than single people. It’s why I asked. Asking is not deciding anything about you. Don’t know where that came from.
Your original post on this topic read like a whitewash of Cain’s culpability by blaming it on the left. Cain did admit to sending her money, right? for quite a long time, right? That’s not a made up story, is it? Nor is the part where Cain admitted his wife did not know.
Look, if you want to lash out at someone for the mess Cain is in, why not start with the man who ... gave money to a woman not his wife for more than a decade and kept the information from his wife.
Can I ask how you, as a wife of 28 years, would feel about discovering your husband had been sending money to a woman for 13 years from media reports, not from your husband?
I can safely say that my wife of 22 years would not be a happy camper.
You are not asking any questions; you are lecturing.
I guess I’m still a jackass then, and permanently off of your Christmas card list?
(yes, I’m a sarcastic bastard as well as a jackass)
Pretty much sums it up as you say.
(2) How did this woman suddenly have a list of text messages ready and waiting to expose unless she had help and had been planning something so she could be paid by one of/some of Cain's enemies? And, how many other people has this woman hit up for money over the years? Where is that list of text messages, or the names of Other people that she turned to for money? I expect, as you suggested, Cain is not the only one she tapped for funds.
(3) If Cain has been giving her money, and others...how about someone getting the IRS to investigate her and her bank account. I expect this woman never reported any financial "gifts" as income. Wonder how much money she has begged for and received on which she has not paid taxes. This is a woman who should be investigated and made to "spread the wealth" and pay her fair share.
(4) Obviously she has not been too bad off if she can afford a cell phone and make thousands of text messages. It is apparent this woman is a blood-sucking leech and a slanderer. Her ex-partner took her to court for slander, and won, proving that even the courts (and her family, by the way) have all declared that she is a liar.
I feel so sorry for Cain. He has been hurt by all these allegations and I do not believe he is an unfaithful husband or a man who has done anything these women claim. There are far more people who know him who can attest to his morality. Only a few greedy, low-life women have tried to discredit him in this way. But the media tempts people to believe the liars and not the true friends and co-workers and associates who know his real character and have defended him throughout all of these untrue stories.
And Cain was also an associate minister at his church.
At this time, I am doubting that sex was a part of the equation.
At this time, I do think that Cain was a good Christian who was well-off, and was willing to share some of his good forture with others who were less fortunate than he is.
-PJ
Good points sam_paine.
Good, common sense points in this thread HJ.
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