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To: ri4dc

I think youre spot on in your assessment.

I think you have to look at the candidates up there as being in one of two camps.

Half are amateurs, winging it. They’ve all at one time been given their 15 minutes. The others have clearly thought the idea of being president thoroughly.

Newt in my mind is the most equipped and experienced. Romney is young and with the energy, but Newt’s ideas and knowledge of local politics surpasses those of the others.

CAin, in my mind is finished, because the lady he helped betrayed him. He gave her money. Why? Men never give someone money, unless you receive something in return. Sorry, that’s how it is.


107 posted on 12/02/2011 3:18:01 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

15 minutes ? At least conservatives we have established will ditch everything and cravenly sell out with enough time for Newt to still implode. Thanks everyone for wasting 6 months on these idiots and allowing potential viable candidates to get off or wither on the wine.


112 posted on 12/02/2011 3:39:32 AM PST by erlayman
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107 posted on Friday, December 02, 2011 5:18:01 AM by nikos1121: “CAin, in my mind is finished, because the lady he helped betrayed him. He gave her money. Why? Men never give someone money, unless you receive something in return. Sorry, that’s how it is.”

I do agree this is very damaging for Cain, but I can’t agree that “men never give someone money, unless you receive something in return.”

Cain is a professing Christian and a member of a historically black church. Many of his friends and fellow church members either grew up in poverty or have family and friends who have had **SERIOUS** hard times. We can say all we want about playing the “race card” today, but there was a day when minorities did suffer from real discrimination, not made-up stuff, and somtimes lost their jobs merely because a boss didn’t like the way they looked that morning. Helping out friends via private donations has a very, very long history in the black community, and that’s not a bad thing. It might even be a very good thing when compared to many formal charity operations which have become nothing but privately run welfare offices.

A successful businessman who gives money to someone to help them out is quite believable to me, and frankly, even thousands of dollars for Herman Cain is equivalent to a few dollars for most of us. Not a big deal and not worth taking much time to consider if you’re a successful businessman.

The problem that causes for a politician is that private actions can look really, really bad when they come out in public. A politician needs to always think, “If I do this, how can my enemies use it against me?” That’s not the way a businessman needs to think — he can legitimately say, “I earned this money and I can do what I want with it.”

This, unfortunately, is a consequence of people running for office who have little prior experience in elected office.

Conservatives, and especially Tea Party people, need to think long and hard about the importance of experience. There is nothing wrong with a professional politician — getting people who know what they are doing **AND** who believe the right things is important. Experienced politicians with bad ideas are dangerous, obviously, but I’m not convinced that electing untested and unexperienced conservatives won’t cause serious problems as well by discrediting the conservative movement as a bunch of wild-eyed incompetents who have hidden skelteons.


120 posted on 12/02/2011 5:36:57 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: nikos1121
Men never give someone money, unless you receive something in return. Sorry, that’s how it is.

You are so wrong on so many levels, it's not even funny.

What research do you have to back up your claim? I personally know hundreds of men who would (and do) give away money without expecting anything in return.

Your view of the real world is very limited.
131 posted on 12/02/2011 7:27:58 AM PST by TheCornerOffice
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To: nikos1121

You honestly believe that there is no man who would give money without thought of return?

I guess everybody who has donated to wounded soldiers must be expecting some action from those wounded vets, huh?

This is incredibly sad, what I hear you claiming. Do you really believe that there is not one good-hearted man in this world?


141 posted on 12/02/2011 10:57:53 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: nikos1121
Men never give someone money, unless you receive something in return. Sorry, that’s how it is.

News to me.

What you describe is an exchange, not giving.

I figure the quid pro quo will be settled later, at God's will.

149 posted on 12/02/2011 2:13:50 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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