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To: butterdezillion

Do you think the amount of communication going on between the two was correct and proper? Normal?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/12/01/herman-cain-texts-ginger-white-phone-affair_n_1122955.html

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According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the records show extensive and repeated communication between Cain and White. White texted Cain 70 times just in weeks between October 22 and November 18, at all hours of the night. Cain reportedly texted White 17 times, mostly in response to her messages.


76 posted on 12/01/2011 6:19:51 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth
mostly in response to her messages

There's your answer. Have you ever been harassed by a crazy hard-luck case? I have. Clients who turn out to be a few fries short of a Happy Meal, friends of friends who turn out to be professional grifters.

I'm sure that ministers, like lawyers, get some of those 2 a.m. phone calls. These days it's text messages. You try to respond politely but briefly.

And the source, the AJC, is as liberal as it gets, so if there were actually anything salacious in these texts it probably would already be out.

81 posted on 12/01/2011 6:30:50 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Esther Ruth

My husband and I are not into texting so I don’t know personally what is reasonable, but I know that with our kids’ texting, what would take place in a normal one-minute phone call can take 10-15 texts. If one conversation took 10 texts, that would be 7 conversations in a 2-week period. Like every other day.

Looks like in that 2-week period Cain responded to about 1 out of every 4 texts that she sent him. Not exactly a picture of eagerness.

That 2-week time period would have been when rent would have been coming due. Cain says he texted her to say stuff like, “What are you doing to try to find a job?” If it’s true that the texts from Cain were in clumps a short time apart, that would fit what he claims.

Somebody texting in the wee hours of the morning seems ridiculous, but if she’s losing sleep because she can’t pay the rent, I could see it happening that way. What time of day was Cain texting her back?

All in all, I could easily see this happening the way Cain describes it, just based on what my husband has experienced from people who are desperate to make ends meet and think they’ve found somebody soft-hearted who will help them. I’ve seen my husband really struggle to get out of the clutches of people who come back time and time again, knowing he/we want to help if we can. I have personally dealt with calls to our home phone because he didn’t answer every message they left on his cell phone. A person who’s not in a pastor’s family might not believe it, but these things come up a lot.

Right now my husband is dealing with somebody who wants him to intervene in a medical situation with her husband, because the money she has to live off is being spent on nursing home care instead and she thinks he should be able to come home. Sometimes my husband feels like this woman is stalking him because she’s just always in his face. She’s an older lady, but if she was 20 years younger and somebody wanted to make a big story out of it, they could come up with claims just like these claims against Cain, and his responses would be basically the same as Cain’s responses; my response would be the same as Cain’s wife’s response. We have lived with this kind of thing long enough to know that this stuff happens.

I can’t say what happened with Cain. I will just say that though White would be on the extreme end of the spectrum for people hounding a pastor for help, based on the desperation we have seen I could easily see things going just like Cain said they did. Most people have no clue what it’s like to be a pastor’s family, but when pastors’ families get together they nod their heads at each others’ stories like these because we’ve all seen it.


93 posted on 12/01/2011 7:56:37 PM PST by butterdezillion
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