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To: discostu

Again you are talking in simply platitudes but not in reality at all. Time after time we here these platitudes by those who oppose laws to prevent terrorist attacks but never any real life facts to back them up. So where is the tyranny? How did the Patriot Act create tyranny for American citizens? It didn’t. How did Gitmo create tyranny for American citizens? It didn’t. How did intercepting enemy communications coming across our borders without a warrant create tyranny for American citizens? Again it didn’t.

Time after time again Paultards, libertarians and Code Pink radicals claim that anti-terrorism laws are going to create tyranny and time after time again they never give any examples. I am sure it will be the same with this bill.

And you say that our nation is built upon allowing ten guilty men to go free in order to prevent one innocent man from being punished wrongly and again that is just a platitude. If we had that mentality then many much more innocent men and women and children would be murdered by the guilty men who were set free. Your view is pure fiction. It has always been the leftists who defend criminals (and terrorists) the way you do. They rallied for criminals suck as Mookie (or whatever the scums name was) the left is against the death penalty based upon the same logic you have just presented as well.

Your statement that you would rather see 3 million innocent Americans dead than have one innocent man imprisoned by this law is absoutely disgusting to me.

Your views come off as being rather left-wing to me. Don’t get offended, I am just being honest. I will be heading out for awhile but will check back later for your response.


63 posted on 12/01/2011 2:24:46 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf
No I'm talking reality, the platitudes are yours. When was the last time the terrorists hit here? So why do we suddenly need to increase the government's ability to throw American citizens in jail? It sure as hell isn't to protect anybody. Once again you run to the insults. Only people that know the facts aren't on their side need insults. I bore with you, you know you're wrong, take it up with these guys: There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty. John Adams, Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding. Louis Brandeis, They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. Thomas Jefferson I prefer liberty with danger to slavery with security. Rafał Leszczyński He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. Thomas Paine Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. Gideon J. Tucker If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking ... is freedom. - Dwight D. Eisenhower
64 posted on 12/01/2011 2:34:14 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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