And further, here are his proposals:
Perry: Uproot and Overhaul Washington
The Perry Plan: Energizing American Jobs and Security
The Perry Economic Plan: Cut, Balance and Grow
Posted on 12/01/2011 4:56:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
..A few of Newt Gingrich’s… Not-So-Greatest Hits:
August 30, 2004: “Now he’s back, preaching the gospel of party moderation. At an Aug. 30 forum held by the centrist Republican Main Street Partnership, Gingrich heralded the GOP’s new, bigger big tent. “Everywhere I’ve been, I’ve argued in favor of electing the moderates,” Gingrich said… He even chastised the fiscally conservative Club for Growth — a group that finances primary challengers to Republican incumbents they deem too liberal — for not getting with the program. “Their strategy is explicitly wrong,” Gingrich said. “The key is to elect more Republicans and have a bigger majority and be more inclusive.”
In June 2005, the New York Times raved about a “balanced and thoughtful” report from a bipartisan task force headed by Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker, and George Mitchell, the former Senate majority leader, declaring, “Lawmakers should take the time to at least thumb through this report, especially those who have been demanding Secretary General Kofi Annan’s resignation, supporting the ill-conceived nomination of John Bolton as the United States ambassador to the United Nations and backing the latest benighted attempt to withhold America’s legally obligated dues.”
In October 2005, Gingrich called for “universal but confidential” DNA testing.
In April 2006,...
In April 2007, he raved about the leadership skills of New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg:....
....In 2007, he accused the Bush administration of fighting a “phony war” on terrorism, and declared “a more effective approach would begin with a national energy strategy aimed at weaning the country from its reliance on imported oil.”
In 2008, he hailed John McCain’s efforts in the crafting of the TARP legislation:....
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
You are avoiding my question. Do you think the 1986 amnesty was a mistake?
I like Perry even as I recognize the enormous blunders he’s made so far in his public appearances i.e. debates. What conservatives have to think about is what candidate will best undo the leftist welfare state and be the one most likely to heed the constitution. That sounds like Perry to me. He’s certainaly no intellectual, but he understands what has to be done. None of the candidates understands as much policy and other esoteric things like Gingrich. But we’re not trying to elect the best intellectual, we want the strongest conservative. Perry if far more likely to do the conservative thing than either Mitt or Newt.
About 40% are conservatives. About 21% are liberal.
Rush mentioned those numbers a few months ago.
This is what I have been trying to point out. When I see Republicans that cant defend their positions in a rational way it makes me wonder if they actually have a reason for them or it's just politically motivated in some way.
I recall a few comments I read and heard in 2007, they went :"We need Dick Cheney as POTUS because he will veto everything Pelosi sends him. I dont care if he can explain it or not. Just veto. That strategy is good until the next election maybe. We are seeing some of this right now with the Boehner House,
You are correct! Newt and Mitt are elites who will not think of what middle America needs but what their circle of political pals want.
About 40% are conservatives. About 21% are liberal.
I don't believe those numbers for a minute. Those numbers are what people call themselves, if asked, not what they really are. As a Catholic I know that 2/3rds of the people calling themselves Catholic are not "practicing", it is just a name they use.
Do you really believe that if the Country were really 40% conservative that Obama could have been elected?
I would put the Country at about 15% conservative, 15% liberal, and 70% who will vote, pretty much without ideological principles, for whoever's personality/looks they like best or who they think will get them the most.
Have to ask 'what conservative thing' might Perry do; say. ..re immigration and sanctuary cities? Both pretty big 'things'. Will he bend to Muslims/Islamists in Texas as well? What 'exactly' is Perry's conservative approach to reforming health care?
As for Mitt's pals; am wondering 'who' they are. Certainly, no Repubs or Demrats, for that matter; inside the Beltway are showing signs of goodwill to Mitt. Right now; Mitt appears a 'man with few inside friends'; but he does have a country and plenty of conservative tea-party supporters; it would appear.
If one reads his policy recommendations; his resume; you will see Newt as far more Conservative - and far more impressive - than Rick Perry's Democrat past; and Mitt Romney's past and present.
Have only to go to hist campaign site or just check wikipedia. His accomplishments and his success through leadership are more than impressive. And you cannot miss the conservative architecture in his ideas/policies either.
I have posted links and quotes to show Gov. Perry’s conservative positions and you have read them and dismissed them. He is strong on border security (and not being a dictator could only bring the Texas legislature so far during the last session). We now have photo voter ID and as to the instate tuition, that was a 2001 state decision to combat the unsecured border and federal dictates dropped in our lap to deal with and pay for.
As for your bringing up the lie about “Muslim/Islamists” - I must assume that you are tied into the anti-Perry smear machine pushed by the communist writer Robert Spencer. There is nothing about Perry “bending to Muslims” (but then you know that).
Rick Perry was a conservative West Texas democrat (as you well know) until the GOP party was built up and then Perry became a Republican (1989) and eventually the first Texas Lt. Gov. since Reconstruction (1998). And in his last election brought in a GOP super-majority; served 2 terms as Chair of the RGA. It goes on and on in that strong conservative, American exceptionalism, military service sort of way.
And further, here are his proposals:
Perry: Uproot and Overhaul Washington
The Perry Plan: Energizing American Jobs and Security
The Perry Economic Plan: Cut, Balance and Grow
It won’t fly. One would have to have their head pretty deep in the sand to expect to win on a “at least we are not republicans” strategy when they control the Senate and the presidency. Everything that has happenned in the last 6 years has happened because the dems controlled at least 2 branches of our government. They would have to be Morons to expect a win based on that strategy. ( in which case, i fully expect them to use it)
I was watching Maddows latest attack last night on Senate Republicans. She was playing clips of them saying that extending the payroll(FICA/SS) tax cut must be paid for(by cutting spending naturally). This is a point I have made for years and it's a major Peter Schiff point: tax cuts without spending cuts=printing money.
Then she played past clip of Republicans saying that tax cuts should never have to be paid for, because they pay for themselves. Heck, Newt claimed that Reagan fixed the SS deficit by cutting taxes. That is how we get GWB/Tom DeLay type ramp ups in spending.
I been questioning that theory for years(that all tax cuts are free) , not only is it counter-intuitive but it conflicts with the current tax theory that we must starve the beast with lower taxes.
My main point is Republicans cant even explain their own theories. They really need to fix this.
My main point is Republicans cant even explain their own theories. They really need to fix this.
As long as the left has the media in their pocket it can’t be fixed. Even if they effectively express their views they will be ignored until the opportunity to twist their words presents itself. We need to clean up, or at least expose the media first. They control the message and they will make the Repubs look like idiots every chance they get.
Cleaning up the media is easier than getting one's story straight?
Real tax cuts leave more money for the private sector to invest in growing their companies. This translates directly to job creation. In turn, this generates more consumer spending—simply because there are more consumers. This produces what Capitalism does best. To wit: Happy consumers with discretionary income and a growing economy.
Finally, Lost tax revenue is more than made up by the increasing number of people earning a living and spending. I remember Reagan doin a tutorial on the subject using piles of pennies. He made it easy to understand.
The problem is not tax cuts and their positive effect on the economy. The problem is the loons running for office today. They have no clue how to communicate the simple tax cut concept in a way people can understand.
Does this make any sense to you? Reducing taxes is not a theory. It’as worked every time it’s been tried. The problem now is that the normal tax cut cycle has been undercut by a loss of confidence in the US Government and the economy. Even the dumb stimulus dollars did not work because everyone is fearful for the future.
In short, in less than four years the Marxists have killed the traditional American optimism. The polls to the extent they can be believed, indicate same. But the real indicster is jobless claims. Despite rampent government manipulation they continue to rise. Hence there are fewer and fewer consumers. Hence there is less tax revenue. And so forth.
Cleaning up the media is easier than getting one’s story straight?
Until the media is cleaned up they will never allow it to look like any conservative has their story straight. They will also help the left to clear up their messages regardless of how muddled they are. We have seen the media pick up and carry this administration regardless of how clear the republican message was and they will twist that message into whatever they want it to be.
Cleaning up the media is easier than getting one’s story straight?
Until the media is cleaned up they will never allow it to look like any conservative has their story straight. They will also help the left to clear up their messages regardless of how muddled they are. We have seen the media pick up and carry this administration regardless of how clear the republican message was and they will twist that message into whatever they want it to be.
"Conservatives" make the media's job much easier by talking out of both sides of their mouths on tax cuts.
Santorum has not been given a fair shake by Republican primary voters, many of whom are so uninformed that they have never heard of him.
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