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"If the government’s track record is any indicator, we can expect these loopholes to be exploited at every possible opportunity.

Just as the federal government has used the PATRIOT Act’s so-called “Sneak-and-Peek,” or delayed notice, warrants for over 1,600 drug cases and only 15 cases of terrorism in 2006-2009 , we can expect the government to use the bill - S. 1867 - for detaining people for completely illegitimate reasons, argues the rights organization."

At least you will never be attacked again because of your freedoms.

1 posted on 11/30/2011 11:42:55 PM PST by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

And some Freepers wish for us to continue voting for Romney and Newt RINO’s.

Vote true Conservative.


2 posted on 11/30/2011 11:47:56 PM PST by This Just In
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To: Cardhu

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4 posted on 12/01/2011 12:36:08 AM PST by Bobalu (even Jesus knew the poor would always be with us)
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To: Cardhu
We have never had such a brazen and potential tyrant in the Oval Office before Barak Obama. The idea of giving him power to incarcerate American citizens on American soil without charges, without counsel, without resort to habeas corpus, and without limitation, is simply terrifying.

Frightening is a word which would describe creating such a power to the likes of Hillary Clinton. By extension, one should be very very concerned about empowering any Democrat to evade the Bill of Rights.

Why would anyone trash the Constitution and make a tyrant of a man who was intimate with Bill Ayres? Why would anyone permit himself to be cast into a dungeon by a disciple of Saul Alinsky? Why would the Congress of the United States make it possible for a man who was mentored by a self-proclaimed communist, Frank Marshall Davis, to consign Americans to a star chamber? Why would America permit a commander in chief who has surrounded himself with an acknowledged communist, countless radicals, and admirers of Mao to become a judge, jury, and jailer of our citizens?

Has Congress lost its mind?


5 posted on 12/01/2011 12:40:58 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Cardhu
Or, even earlier, Lincoln suspended writs of habeas corpus for "security" reasons.

The frogs have all been boiled, and the Sons of Liberty are weeping!

12 posted on 12/01/2011 2:15:29 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: Cardhu

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


13 posted on 12/01/2011 2:24:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Cardhu
I would call this legislation the 'Groucho Marx Bill', as he said in his role as Rufus T. Firefly in 'Duck Soup',

"Line 'em up against the wall, and POP goes the weasel!"

That is what the feds are planning to do to 'We The People'.
14 posted on 12/01/2011 2:51:24 AM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain!!)
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Does anybody think we’re getting out of this alive? I don’t.


15 posted on 12/01/2011 3:36:24 AM PST by wastedyears (Not too long you devious little parathyroid. Soon I'll be rid of you and I'll be free.)
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To: Cardhu

Its getting closer to house-cleaning time!


17 posted on 12/01/2011 3:50:53 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Cardhu

Bump


18 posted on 12/01/2011 3:51:48 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: Cardhu

This should please the law & order types that hang out here. After all if you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear. Right?? Well, if this passes the House and Barry signs it (which he says he won’t) then the L&O types will be dancing in the streets on the Constitution.


25 posted on 12/01/2011 4:47:02 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Cardhu

Wow!


26 posted on 12/01/2011 4:49:35 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Forced diversity causes dissent!)
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To: Cardhu; bamahead; Eric Blair 2084; Kartographer; greyfoxx39; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; ...

Another indicator that those who do not fall lock step in with the government dictates are in danger.


35 posted on 12/01/2011 5:27:58 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Cardhu

Maybe only the 2nd time I’ve agreed with the ACLU.


39 posted on 12/01/2011 5:36:24 AM PST by b4its2late (Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former.)
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To: metmom; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
The most unsettling aspect is that the deciding factor in determining if an individual can be detained indefinitely is not any proof of guilt, but instead entirely by officials in the Executive Branch, which, according to the ACLU would be “following some future agency regulations.”



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

47 posted on 12/01/2011 6:08:11 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Cardhu
When I'm in agreement with the ACLU, you know something isn't right!!!

I think 90% of Americans were for the Patriot Act following 9/11 and that was because of fear, other 10% hate America and want it destroyed.

But this isn't directed at Al-Qaeda, they get their $100,000 a year prison vacation, with ethnic meals and probably a spa.

This is directed towards, "those who cling to their guns and religion..."

49 posted on 12/01/2011 6:18:31 AM PST by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: Cardhu

For Frak’s sake everyone: READ the bill. Even if you don’t have time for that, at least READ the highlighted section:

(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

I’m not sure how much clearer that needs to be.


60 posted on 12/01/2011 8:48:20 AM PST by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cardhu

Any freeper who cheers this kind of nonsense on is a fool and a disgrace.


75 posted on 12/01/2011 5:02:38 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Cardhu; Dengar01

More than half of congress deserves to be held indefinitely themselves. And I have some charges, the violent rape of the constitution for one.


76 posted on 12/01/2011 5:11:29 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Cardhu; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ..

Might as well dig up Thomas Woodrow Wilson to sign this one into law.

PING!


80 posted on 12/01/2011 7:38:50 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Cardhu

This makes me so mad.!


86 posted on 12/02/2011 4:31:20 AM PST by tutstar (Want pings to Aaron Klein articles and OWS nonsense?)
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