Posted on 11/30/2011 5:37:30 AM PST by maggief
In what could be a devastating blow to Herman Cains Republican presidential bid, Atlanta businesswoman Ginger White gave an interview to Good Morning America on Wednesday in which she divulged new details of her alleged 13-year-long affair with the candidate and panned Cain's suitability to be president.
I cant make this up, White said. And frankly speaking, I wouldnt want to make this up.
White said that Cain took her to a Mike Tyson-Evander Holyfield boxing match in the late 1990s, and said that the former president of the National Restaurant Association had given her money for the last two and a half years consistently, but that the money was not sex for cash.
White had previously alleged that Cain would fly her across the country and lavish her with gifts and expensive dinners. Cain denied the story, although White provided Fox 5 Atlanta, which broke her story, with phone and text-messaging records that detail dozens of correspondences some very late at night between White and Cain.
Cain claims White is looking to take advantage of their friendship for personal gain.
Im not sure whats going on in his head right now, White responded on Wednesday. But its unfortunate that any of this is going on.
White was asked if she thought Cain was fit to be president. In my opinion, no I do not, she said.
I honestly do not think that he is, in my opinion, would make a good president, as far as Im concerned. My views are different from his views, but at the end of the day this is not political this is absolutely not political and Ive never tried to make it out to be that, said White.
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Herman Cain chose to associate with this woman (that is a fact), so it is his own fault for surrounding himself with troubled people like this. Youd expect someone like her to protect your reputation???
As for me, Im 40-something and quite able to make my own decisions, thank you. If YOU want to wait until supportable facts are disclosed, more power to you. For myself, Ive started looking elsewhere. Id prefer to vote for someone who surrounds himself/herself with a better class of people.
Severall here who have or have had family that are or were involved in church work have explained that most of the people that need help have problems. Mostly of their own making, but also often because of their associations.
You can’t avoid danger, whether physical or otherwise when dealing with troubled people.
Some good Samaritans get stabbed, some with knives and others with words or deeds.
As for what constitutes evil; have you ever heard of Darrell Hunt?
A very scary story of what can happen when “everyone knows”.
If her story is true, she should be able to produce a lot more than phone records.
The answer may be found in my posting history over the past several days w/r/t Mr. Cain.
You have a right to your opinion.
I forgot to add that is would be wiser to judge him on the character of the people he hired and worked with than on the character of the people he treated as charity.
It would be very difficult, if not impossible to be personally involved in charity work and not have to deal with some unstable people.
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and he's BLACK...the biggie...freepers have always been obsessed with race and racism and they think Cain is the ticket to prove from OUR SIDE how cool we are about "folks of a darker hue"
Years back it smelled of this at least to me. I have never been impressed with him and have heard folks here loudly proclaim over and over how great it would be to shove a black man in the face of the media and left.,..and it would be if Cain were a black Palin or Reagan but he's not
Over the years folks here have gone gaga over Powell, Condi, Steele and Watts...all disappointments and now they are race high over Cain and West...it never ends
I simply do not drink at that well and never have in adulthood and never will and view Cain as just another conservative businessman with a radio show and a minister's ordination who has a lot of clouds around him about womanizing and tit for tat sexual adventures which folks here claim all are all lies and a grand conspiracy.
Cain lied basically at the beginning of the payoff/settlement/severance scandal when he claimed he did not recall...in fact he did recall according to GOP witnesses in his 2003 campaign...but they are lying too
it goes on and on...Cain is not really ill informed on foreign affairs, Cain did not really waffle on abortion, and so forth...just yesterday he claimed immigration was a matter for the states
How can reasonable folks just ignore all that? Would they ignore it all from a conservative white male candidate...?
Sorry...my radar about hucksterism goes off with Cain..a lot
Does with Newt too a bit to be frank but I'm more used to his talks too much wonk and I know where I differ with him with his huge track record
I have seen the forum out of sorts before and positions here go from zot worthy to endorsed pretty damn quick
So who knows where we will be in 6 months really?
post 102 is an example of the irrationality about how whites here view race
the guilt and shame clouds reason
simply amazing
I just don’t live that way...whatsoever
“What this is all about” is her getting on Good Morning America and other media venues. It had to kill her that the other accusers got all that attention. She just HAD to step forward with a story of her own.
Gotta love the reference to he as an “Atlanta businesswoman” .. oh, yeah, one whose former partner in their failed business venture sued her - twice - including for a protective order against White’s stalking. If she were accusing a Dem, she’d be referred to as a “frequently and recently evicted stalker.” Oh, no. No, she wouldn’t be referred to that way .. if she were accusing a Dem she would get no attention at all.
“A fool and his money are soon parted”. They can throw their money away, much like the Palin fanatics did, but in the end, they not only hold back the real and vital funds needed to beat Obama, it gets wasted on candidates , who do not have any intentions of entering, or who are simply taking advantage of their naive supporters.
Cain sold 13,000 copies of this book to his campaign, from the funds donated to him, to take personal financial gain from his supporters. He is not as pure and “principled” as his blind supporters believe.
If someone needed their lights turned back on, I’d call the electric company. If someone was cold, I’d hand them a jacket from the donation pile. If a mother’s child was hungry, I’d fed him a sandwich. Would you hand the guy begging on the corner YOUR cell phone number?
I do charity work (all of the tasks listed above), but I have never handed out my personal cell phone number to anyone I’ve helped in the past. Why would Herman Cain do that in this case? They exchanged what, 60-something texts/phone calls? What kind of charity did she need???
There are proper ways to help those who need it, especially for someone who has held powerful positions like Mr. Cain. He should have know better... if indeed this is a case of charity at all. I question his judgement even more now.
My cell was on my web page for years....because, as I suspect Cain did, when you are traveling all the time it is easier to take calls as they are generated rather than having to call or visit the office to find out who wants to talk to you.
I certainly am not the only one that has published his cell.
I have no idea how Cain handled his cell number. I am only pointing out that there are things that should be considered.
Cain sold 13,000 copies of this book to his campaign, from the funds donated to him, to take personal financial gain from his supporters. He is not as pure and principled as his blind supporters believe.
What did he do with the 13,000 copies?
I think you are exactly right. Cain was the great black hope.
I share your doubts about Newt but he is running strong... who knows how things will end up.
I will take Newt over the rest of the field but not without my doubts.
I will..but not because you tell me to. It’s because I like to connect with those who are living in the REAL world.
Excellent. Run along now.
Cain was diagnosed, and being treated for, cancer between 2004-2006.
And, according to this article dated November 4, 2010, Ginger White was diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse requiring open heart surgery sometime between 2003-2004.
Combined, that accounts for +/- four years when one or both of these people's physical condition didn't lend itself to extra-marital affairs.
Not only that, but when a man is that ill, his wife will not let him out of her sight for more than a few minutes because she is so busy mothering him.
I saw that with my parents as well as several other families.
No way he would have been out of her sight long enough to carry on an affair.
Ah, another ‘08 sign-up. Voting Romney are you?
"Move on" to the NEXT Conservative to be savaged with an attempted character assassination by the faceless machine in Axelrod's basement, allied with a merciless national liberal socialist media?
No way bro.
We stand our ground and we FIGHT and return fire and recapture territory.
With all due respect to your opinion, we tell them to BACK OFF and we show it with our actions and donations. We show them a thing or too.
You only feed the monster if you let them succeed in removing the largest threat to them for Obama's reelection (the very reason they ginned up these skanks). Since they have no record to run on, the Obama-ites have dossiers, true or made up makes no difference, on all the GOP candidates that they do not want to face in 2012, and giving up the Cain Battle simply means for them their methodology has been validated, and they move on to the next GOP threat to them down the line, and so and and so on and scooby dooby doo....
If the text messages are there let’s see them. Why should I take someone’s word that they exist? Is that the level of proof today? “Your honor, my client does have emails from him. Honest! I’ve seen them. And I’m sure your honor would think them as titillating as I do. But I have no intention of letting you see them. You’ll have to take my word for it.”
Of course, in your mind the last one was credible too. But if he’s toast one has to ask the question, why are you on this thread and why do you care? Sorry, but I could lie more convincingly. And it’s none of your business whether he stays or goes or whether people support him or not. Plug your own candidate.
Cindie
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