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Fed, global central banks move to boost financial system (Got Inflation?)
MSNBC ^ | 11/30/2011 | By Patrick Rizzo

Posted on 11/30/2011 5:36:50 AM PST by TSgt

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To: Toddsterpatriot

as total wages increase, for any given or constant rate the total tax paid will increase.


61 posted on 11/30/2011 6:56:19 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: bert

If inflation is 10% and wages increase 10%, taxes will increase 10%. That’s a wash.


62 posted on 11/30/2011 7:53:55 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: johnny reb

The worry is, a run on the banks. A bank stock at a certain price will cause all confidence to be lost in management and not only a dumping of that stock will occur but cause the little people to withdrawal all their funds out of that bank but contagion causing other banks to be caught up in a run for no other reason than a panic means all (major) banks will be government supported at all costs (means taxpayer monies will be used, again).


63 posted on 11/30/2011 9:02:49 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: Razzz42
"Forget about making money, just preserving what you have is the real challenge."

In these dire times, a worthy ambition. But preservation of principle should also include staying even with inflation.

yitbos

64 posted on 11/30/2011 9:06:38 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

The only way I see staying even with inflation is either investing or buying something that tracks and keeps pace with inflation. Saving or putting money in the bank with be a losing proposition but most people won’t have the extra money laying around to try and protect themselves from inflation (the hidden tax).

During inflationary times even maintaining principle is a losing cause when you get right down to it.


65 posted on 11/30/2011 9:27:23 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The wash is to the tax payer.

To the government there is a net increase in revenue with which to pay down debt. The devalued (inflated ) dollars are worth less than the indebted dollars.


66 posted on 12/01/2011 4:21:49 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker
the better toon would be the 'homeless panhandler' that takes the cash back to his mercedes and drives straight to the bank to make a deposit...

or better yet, runs back to his sprawling estate and socks it into a mason jar and tosses it in the pool out back...

67 posted on 12/01/2011 5:30:01 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: bert

Yes, inflation makes it easier to pay down old debt.

No, inflation does not increase real revenues when tax brackets are adjusted for inflation.


68 posted on 12/01/2011 6:29:56 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; bert
Income tax rates are indexed for inflation.

How accurate is the government's measure of "inflation?" Aren't there private companies who come up with different numbers from the government?

69 posted on 12/01/2011 7:17:34 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

The government measure is probably pretty accurate.
I’m not aware of any private numbers.
If you find some, please let me know.


70 posted on 12/01/2011 7:27:56 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
There are a few private price inflation indexes.

One, recently developed by economists Roberto Rigobon and Alberto Cavallo, is the MIT's Sloan School of Management Billion Prices Project (BPP) (http://bpp.mit.edu/ ).

They have slightly different inputs but, in general, are pretty comparable to the U.S. government's BLS indexes, especially over the longer periods, as most price inflation indexing schemes' input-related spikes are generally "self-correcting" over time.

Data for the USA is at http://bpp.mit.edu/usa/

Ref: NIA Backs Sarah Palin In Inflation Dispute - FR, post #6, 2010 November 17

Ref: Misconceptions about the CPI (FR Thread to Prove or Disprove CPI and Shadow Stats)(17page PDF file) - FR, posts #31, #40, 2011 April 15

71 posted on 12/02/2011 2:51:23 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
How accurate is the government's measure of "inflation?" Aren't there private companies who come up with different numbers from the government?

You can go to shadowstats.com and get a chart of inflation calculated with out the 'enhancements' that have changed the CPI from measuring the cost of maintaining a set standard of living to maintaining the cost of maintaining a declining standard of living.



Among the biases which tamp down the CPI are the hedonic index, the substitution effect, home owner's rental equivalence, chained dollars, geometric weighting, and intervention analysis. If you want more specifics contact me.
72 posted on 12/02/2011 11:07:54 AM PST by algernonpj (andin Web Site</a>)
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To: CutePuppy
Thanks for reminding me about BPP.
They do real work, unlike Shadowstats.
73 posted on 12/02/2011 11:11:11 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

All three, if, and how, and when.


74 posted on 12/03/2011 7:42:16 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp)
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To: Varsity Flight
If a central banks pays back the loan? I'll give you a hint, if the foreign banks don't pay back their central bank, their central bank can still print money to buy the dollars to pay back the Fed.

How? By printing.

When? When their dollar liquidity issue recedes.

75 posted on 12/03/2011 9:29:34 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“By printing.”

Your catching on. “IF” and HOW Printing, is NOT “paying back”

And the “when”: Hear Merkel this week about the “when”?

The 08 actors are still on stage.


76 posted on 12/04/2011 2:49:00 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp)
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To: Varsity Flight
Printing, is NOT “paying back”

Printing and buying dollars and then paying back is "paying back".

And the “when”: Hear Merkel this week about the “when”?

Are you confusing Germany's reluctance to loan Greece money with Germany paying back dollars the ECB borrows from the Fed?

Just another point you're confused about.

77 posted on 12/04/2011 9:38:51 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

No, the ENTIRE “paper” (papered-up, digital entries, etc.,)”crisis”:

http://forex.fxdd.com/134554/forex-trading/merkel-euro-crisis-cant-be-resolved-overnight

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2011/11/22/Merkel-EU-Bonds-Wont-Fix-Euro-Crisis.aspx

“moral hazard” breach, etc., terms others may use..regardless

the cover for the so called “printing” will be:

1. sustained (”marathon”) /rising prices

2. unresolved (”marathon”) mass unemployment, (Spanish style), spread out more here.

The actors and cast, are still on stage. “Act II” “The Merkel Marathon” the “when”, the never, the black hole.


78 posted on 12/04/2011 6:30:44 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp)
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