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To: Mister Da
If what you say is true, Cain’s main backers should be eager to lynch the lynchers.

No interest in seeking to their level, but willing to burn down their plantation before we allow him to be lynched..

Why hasn’t a defamation suit been filed by Cain? If this woman is lying, surely he must want to clear his name & retaliate against a liar & slanderer.

Tempting...but when one uses wisdom, you are forced to conclude that any lawsuit at this moment would just add to the circus and distract from the ultimate goal. Which is to solve the problems we face as a nation that are beyond pesky, and have the ability to actually cripple us.

These allegations strike at the heart of Cain’s credibility. He must refute these allegations immediately & vigorously, or lose his conservative support.

Pure speculation. He will not lose true conservative support, he will lose support of folks weak at heart, unwilling to recognize the true battle and war- and how serious this is. Allowing this man to be dragged through the street as an example to those who challenge the elites, media, and powerful in DC would be the epitome of caving to the thought that WE the People truly control this government. The evil in this country wants us to believe that a good man without politically lined wheels cannot win, or even survive DC. They want us to believe that we need their help to guide us, they know how this works. We need to just accept those they put on the menu for us, Then we get a say.

You see, my problem with this is HOW Cain handles crises.

I can understand that being a problem. But it brings me to this. I don't want a well polished politico. If they can "manage" the media without a hitch, they can "manage" me as well....I don't want perfect, I want principled, I want someone willing to see corruption and put a stop to it. We will never end the corruption in DC if we are too scared to drive the corrupt folks out of DC. Newt and Mitt don't strike me as uncorrupted or principled. Cain and Bachmann are more likely candidates for such a thing.

If he “fumbles the ball” every time he is challenged, then he is not fit to be President. If he cannot deal decisively & brutally with liars, then he will fail miserably in Washington, DC. We already have a Fumbler-in-Chief - we can’t afford another!

What you may see as fumbling, I see as someone who is not letting media and rumors distract him from the priority of his real mission. He is not falling into that trap, and pundits and Rush wannabees want to label that as incompetence. It is human nature to react harshly to those targeting us with evil, vile, and lies. But don't mistake his ability to resist this urge as a weakness. It is the sign of someone who doesn't deal with ankle biters vs armed enemies in a priority of urgency...

Again, I understand your train of thoughts, and can appreciate your concerns. They are real, not imagined. But we are trained by pundits and media to allow us to be distracted. They are masters at teasing our logic and urges to right wrongs. They have truly mastered the ability to tap into our urges to think the worst, find flaws, and be convinced of their educated and knowledgeable experience....

70 posted on 11/30/2011 6:46:34 AM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: eeevil conservative

Thanks. Your post has boosted my failing hopes.

We are in such dire circumstances and the establishment hacks want to keep going down the same road. I think Herman Cain is one who can get us back on the right track. I’m afraid he will be destroyed, and with him, one of our last chances to fix this country.


83 posted on 11/30/2011 7:14:05 AM PST by iceskater (I am a Carnivore Conservative - No peas for me. (h/t N.Theknow))
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To: eeevil conservative
Essentially, what you are saying is trust the guy - Cain.

Sorry, but I gave up that naivete with Jimmy Carter.

If he does not clearly refute the White allegations, I have to assume they are true, & therefore Cain is an adulterer, a public liar (a poor one at that), & a hypocrite - not fit to be President.

If he wants my vote, he's got some explaining to do, & all this about staying above it all is pure weasel BS, to me.

I am not impressed, & his recent drop in the polls suggest many others are not impressed, either.

88 posted on 11/30/2011 7:21:57 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: eeevil conservative

THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU, great post and so very,
correct!!!! We all need to stand firm this IS the fight of our lives, please
everyone NO WOBBLY KNEES!!!!!!


98 posted on 11/30/2011 7:48:25 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: eeevil conservative

Great analysis, unfortunately the truth within it will be lost to many here.


116 posted on 11/30/2011 9:49:14 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: eeevil conservative; ohioWfan; AmericanInTokyo; surfer; Kit cat; Mister Da; Kaslin

” - - - he will lose support of folks weak at heart - - - “

Cain will also lose support of the GULLIBLE.

An excellent gullibility index are the MSM sponsored opinion polls. The change in poll numbers reveal the gullibility of the alert audience to a baseless news”story,” otherwise know as a rumor, planted story, fabrication, or simply a lie.

While we are taught to understand the concept of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, we usually take the easy way out by believing without question only what we hear. Hearing is easier than thinking.

The MSM in their 24/7 rush-to-judgment journalism hire only gullible talking heads, and thus decrease the needless bother of requiring actual facts.

(Bill “The Spin Stops Here” O’Reilly is an excellent example of a gullible talking head, who said last night on his FOX “The Factor” show, “Cain is done.” It would warm my heart to read that in 2013 President Herman Cain invited gullible Bill O’Reilly to a Rose Garden TEA Party.)

This results in more news”stories” per hour, and thus higher ratings and higher advertising rates. Time is money, and money comes from advertising minutes.

BTW, preform this test yourself: Which is faster: 1.) reach a conclusion based only on the rumor that you hear; or 2.) withhold judgement until irrefutable facts are gathered to convincingly support a rumor?


121 posted on 11/30/2011 10:23:01 AM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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