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1 posted on 11/29/2011 12:50:36 PM PST by CincyRichieRich
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To: CincyRichieRich

It’ll be Newt with Marco Rubio or Bob McDonnell as VP.


2 posted on 11/29/2011 12:53:42 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
Santorum is a VP candidate as he may be able to deliver PA.

I'm not convinced he can deliver PA. He lost his last campaign there by something like 18 points.

P.S. He talks about himself too much.

3 posted on 11/29/2011 12:54:00 PM PST by freespirited (Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business & degenerates into a racket. -- Hoffer)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Some FReepers seem hell-bent on voting for Ross Paul as a third party candidate, which will lead to the re-election of Barack Clinton.


4 posted on 11/29/2011 12:54:13 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: CincyRichieRich

Again, Cain did NOT say reassess. He said assess. The latest little tart loser was a friend of he and his wife. She was single, mother and no job. He helped her with her rent.

He is staying. I am glad he is. I am tired of RINOS being chosen as our candidates.


5 posted on 11/29/2011 12:56:18 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Your post summarizes why I am seriously considering just sitting this election out if Cain drops out.

I dunno. Imagine you are a Jew and you are trying to decide between Hitler and Stalin...


6 posted on 11/29/2011 12:58:49 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
Cain is out; his fault or not, he's out.

I strongly disapprove of this kind of equivocation. If Cain is not guilty of this behavior, he should of course stay in. If it is true as Ms. White describes, he should drop out with apologies to all. There is no middle ground.

7 posted on 11/29/2011 1:00:05 PM PST by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

It comes down to math. Emotions are easy to try to run with, but it’s math we have to deal with.

Let’s start with the easy one: Palin. The math is she has already missed filing deadlines in too many States. She is out.

Now we move on to Bachmann, Santorum, and Huntsman. Less than 10% polling in all major States, they are out.

Ron Paul has 15 to 18% of the polls. He has his section, but he won’t win any State. He is the wildcard (where will his support slosh around?).

So we now needs to look at Cain, Perry, Gingrich, and Romney.

Cain has hit a ceiling of around 27%. I don’t think he can get much higher in any of his polls.

Romney has a very hard cap of 30% in the polls. His only chance is winning a plurality where 30% slips over the top. He absolutely must win New Hampshire plus either Iowa or South Carolina in order to move that cap up.

Perry has plenty of money, good organization, and people lined up to endorse him... if he can prove he can win. He needs a win. He needs it bad. If he doesn’t end up in 2nd in either New Hampshire or Iowa, he is done.

Gingrich has the momentum. He is raising funds and he has timed his “peak” at the right time. If he wins Iowa, and he comes in second in New Hampshire, the he removes Perry from the race and probably Cain as well. If Romney has to run one on one against Gingrich, Gingrich wins the nomination hands down.

Of course we have 5 weeks before Iowa, and that is like 5 lifetimes in the world of politics. But this is my view as of this moment.


13 posted on 11/29/2011 1:07:42 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: CincyRichieRich
Romney I think can win the nomination and GE, however, there will be a revolt with FREEP and other conservative sites and groups and followers...that will cost us both the presidency and our nation.

Please 'splain how he can win the GE and then cost us the presidency?

16 posted on 11/29/2011 1:11:18 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

If Santorum were able to deliver PA he’d still be in the Senate. He would not have lost that ridiculous race to Bob Casey with his IQ of 37 and that absurd strategy of lying low and hoping people would think he was his dead father (which, apparently, they did).


17 posted on 11/29/2011 1:18:44 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: CincyRichieRich

If we let wild media accusations define Herman Cain, what makes you think they’ll back down before Newt Gingrich?


18 posted on 11/29/2011 1:19:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: CincyRichieRich

I haven’t read the comments yet, but we need to stop thinking of VP as a “Second Place” or “Consolation Prize.” The best VPs are guys who were never running for President in the first place. George HW Bush was a consolation prize, and was an abysmal one-term President when he came up.

The best VPs are the ones that bring either ideological or geographical balance to the ticket.

The only consideration here, is President or not? Ignore VP.


26 posted on 11/29/2011 2:02:59 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = Zipper Problem; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Cain is not out.

Aide: Herman Cain will stay in the race
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/aide-herman-cain-will-stay-in-the-race/

Sorry to burst your bubble.


29 posted on 11/29/2011 2:14:02 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: CincyRichieRich

The following is a salient, genius analysis:
Obama’s Winning Election Strategy Revealed
godfatherpolitics.com ^ | Nov 28, 2011 | godfatherpolitics.com

Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 4:43:32 PM by Iam1ru1-2

When someone has to use a teleprompter all the time, it’s because he doesn’t believe what he’s reading. The words are not his own. People who know and believe a certain way don’t need notes. You know they believe what they’re saying because the words roll of their tongue. There is passion in their words and fire in their eyes.

President Obama has a love/hate relationship with the presidency. As a Leftist, he believed coming into office that he could change the world by executive fiat. He would speak and the laws would change. It didn’t happen. Sure, he’s gotten some legislation passed, but it’s been hard. He’s not used to hard. You can tell by how much he likes to play. He’s not engaged.

Obama doesn’t have a feel for what America is about. He wasn’t raised in a pro-American environment. He grew up and surrounded himself with Leftists. These people hate America and want it to be relegated to the dustbin of history.

There aren’t enough people in America who fit the Leftist profile to make an easy sweep of Leftist policies. But that’s beginning to change.

Daniel Pipes encapsulates what he calls “Obama’s Leftist Conundrum”:

On the one hand, as a Leftist he despises the United States and sees it as a force for ill in the world. On the other, as president, [he] is judged by how well the country fares during his tenure.

Logically, he cannot reconcile the contradiction of these two imperatives: If he wants to be reelected and celebrated as a great leader, he has to forward American interests; but if he wants to implement his preferred policies, he subverts the country and fouls his nest.

This means that if President Obama is to win the presidency again and implement the Leftist worldview that he envisions will bring all of his ideological training to fruition, he has to make an aggressive political decision. He must decide what group of voters will help him further his agenda. Thomas Edsall, surprisingly from the New York Times, writes an insightful article. It’s titled “The Future of the Obama Coalition.”

“For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.”

“All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.

Presently, we are a 50-50 nation. Fifty percent of voters have no economic skin in the game. Then there are the government employees who depend on taxes to keep them employed. Talk about tax cuts scares them. With revenue down, they will be affected first. Nearly 50 percent of Americans don’t pay a dime in federal taxes. Once we reach a tipping point, that is, once that number goes over 50 percent (it’s around 47 percent), the game is nearly over. It becomes an election of sheep and wolves, and we’re the sheep.

“Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote. . . . Voters and politicians alike would do well to take a look at the rights we each hold, which must never be chipped away by the whim of the majority.”

We’re lunch. Obama understands this very simple principle. He is counting on the wolves to vote en masse while hoping that the sheep will divide their vote.

The Republicans can’t get together on a candidate. This is troublesome. I’m not sure what the answer is. At this point, we’re down to Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Newt Gingrich. Any one of these candidates will turn off a lot of anti-Obama voters. Personally, I think it’s going to come down to Newt versus Mitt.

What we need is a “Contract for 2012.” Before we get to the primary season, each candidate will be called on to sign the contract and take an oath to uphold it. Part of that contract will include a resignation clause. Any violation of the contract’s provision will mean a 30-day resignation window either to change his mind or resign.


What this really means, and I strongly agree...Obama REALLY BELIEVES and ASSUMES he wins again. He is so arrogant and above all of us he doesn’t even think there will be a chance of him losing. I say this because he knows he has the MSM and the infrastructure to control us plebes.


35 posted on 11/29/2011 3:30:19 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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